Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby WoodButcher » February 17th 2017, 5:47pm

Possibly. There was not much room when closed, Lump tried a stop on the face or back of bracket itself and it got in the way. If the bracket were made with a tang off the top or bottom it may be done, possibly.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby DaveAstro » May 4th 2017, 5:03pm

Coaster wrote:how about a gull wing door and fold down steps??

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I didn't need steps, but there's the gullwing
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby sixsix » May 4th 2017, 7:51pm

Hiya' - Welcome Back. Nice Van.

Well... you got the "Clearing the Wheels" thingie solved.
LOL

How 'bout in the garage or shopping center, tho?



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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby MI_Ghost » May 5th 2017, 2:18am

sixsix wrote:
How 'bout in the garage or shopping center, tho?



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Mike in case you hadn't noticed. That not green asphalt under those tires.
That van is definitely not a parking lot princess.

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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby sixsix » May 5th 2017, 3:19am

MI_Ghost wrote:Mike in case you hadn't noticed. That not green asphalt under those tires.
That van is definitely not a parking lot princess.

I'm glad you squared that away, ghost.

I was worried for Dave there a sec or 2...



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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby nosxjeep » May 15th 2017, 9:41pm

Ok, so crazy idea...
Instead of modifying the hinges of the slider to kick out father, how about kicking out the entire rail that it slides on?
Maybe just in the back on a scissor hinge or something that springs out when the door releases?

Just so you know where the idea came from... I was thinking of running a steel protective bar along the side of the van there. What if i extended the rail to run inside the bar, about 3 inches father out.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby TurnNburn » May 15th 2017, 10:28pm

I like what you are thinking...

if you had a donor van you could cut the track off and weld it on top of the stock track. that could work, but then as far as you push it out, will be that much further away from the door seal.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby nosxjeep » May 15th 2017, 10:34pm

Plus, you'd be sticking out the side of the van. Which if you tuck it inside some Boulder bars then that's fine, but otherwise it would look weird.
That's why i was thinking that unbolting or cutting lose the original track and having it pop out on a sort of hinge, but then you'd need to make sure it supports the weight of the door... At least partial weight.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby 97cargocrawler » May 16th 2017, 8:41am

Believe me, it does NOT work. One day I thought I was the absolute schnitzel and had finally solved this issue, nope. The F'n door was nearly impossible to get latched and part of the upper roller mech scrapes the cover with as little as maybe 1/4" of the track pushed out. It was like 4 hours of wasted time. But maybe you will see some solution I missed.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby nosxjeep » May 16th 2017, 3:30pm

The other 2 rollers were my concern as from just looking at them i can't visualize where binding would occur. I'll have to prop the door up, pull the rear roller off and see.
But CC, what do you mean by "scraping the cover"?
I guess I'll see it for myself eventually.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby 97cargocrawler » May 16th 2017, 4:09pm

nosxjeep wrote:The other 2 rollers were my concern as from just looking at them i can't visualize where binding would occur. I'll have to prop the door up, pull the rear roller off and see.
But CC, what do you mean by "scraping the cover"?
I guess I'll see it for myself eventually.


Center roller/track section, the outer cosmetic panel that covers the track. The cover attaches to the body sheet metal so it stays put while the track will move outward with spacers etc. The arm that holds the roller will scrape the backside of the cosmetic panel. There's very little clearance behind the panel. If you were to eliminate the panel no worries at all, it will just look hideous with the center section of your body panel missing. I contemplated losing the panel altogether but I still had issues with the door not wanting to latch. I had to slam it with hands both on the front and rear of the slider. I could see losing a finger so I reverted back to stock. Moving the track out does allow for tire clearance but opens up a whole new can of worms.

The tapered effect might work better.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby nosxjeep » May 16th 2017, 8:33pm

Ah! OK, I know what you mean now... for some reason I was thinking that you were talking about one of the other rollers, but yes the middle track "cover" would definitely need to go!
I had 2 different ideas:
1) run a steel bar as a rear quarter off road guard and run the track inside it (with an obvious extension so it still goes into its stock forward location.
2) stay more stock and have both the track and the cover mounted to a reinforced angled steel swing out in the back (but not in front) creating a diagonal line away from the van.
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