Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby Lumpy [OP] » January 4th 2015, 8:46am

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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby WoodButcher » January 4th 2015, 3:35pm

Has anyone come up with an easy solution?
I saved these pics and now that Lump has brought it up again I thought I would ask.
I can't see how this would work but I have thought of replacing that swing-arm with a piece hinged in the center that could lengthen what we have, any ideas?
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If you guys have pics of anything like this post them up.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby coppermtn » January 4th 2015, 5:54pm

I welded mine shut! easy rite.. ha

Wouldn't a tub of the rear inner fenders work? Not too difficult..
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby WoodButcher » January 4th 2015, 9:18pm

coppermtn wrote:I welded mine shut! easy rite.. ha

Wouldn't a tub of the rear inner fenders work? Not too difficult..

Sure,
if you want to narrow the axle and fab up a four link....
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby coppermtn » January 9th 2015, 11:29pm

if were talkin an inch, just offset the rim in the rear..
My 37's with a std width rear axle barely rubs the stock fender at full stuff

if were talkin a foot, then yea
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby 97cargocrawler » January 10th 2015, 12:39am

I've got about an inch higher to go...

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Lumpy has about 8" to go :poke:

If I change tires I'm good as it sits. Modding the door is for weewee lift POSERS! :D
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby coppermtn » January 10th 2015, 12:50am

whats the offset on your rims?

*As in, tuck the tire an inch or 1.5" in with a different offset rim.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby 97cargocrawler » January 10th 2015, 1:02am

coppermtn wrote:whats the offset on your rims?

*As in, tuck the tire an inch or 1.5" in with a different offset rim.
No lift req'd.


4.75" backspacing....and I have a 1.5" spacer. They aint really tucked in. My track width is like 85" or so.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby coppermtn » January 10th 2015, 1:06am

wow. my width is 80"-81"
outside tire to outside tire width
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby Lumpy [OP] » January 10th 2015, 3:07am

coppermtn wrote:
My 37's ...



Pics? Or did I miss (or forget) something?


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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby coppermtn » January 14th 2015, 12:49am

all the pics with my van have 37 inch tires. BFG Krawlers

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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby kennyj » January 14th 2015, 3:37am

There's a guy on another van forum who modified a Ford van hinge for more clearance. By cutting away material from one end and adding material to the other end he was able to lengthen the roller arm, moving the hinge point, while maintaining the overall length of the arm from rollers to mounting point. Pretty clever!
I haven't looked to see how it would work on an Astro. Just reporting what I saw. Somebody with a welder and a cool new welding table may be able to do something with the idea. :poke:

I'll try to find the guy's thread and post the link here.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby kennyj » January 14th 2015, 4:06am

Found it!

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... n-tutorial

Not as exotic as Lumpy's pic/solution up there, but a good idea nevertheless.
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby Lumpy [OP] » January 14th 2015, 4:30am

Thanks for the link, Kenny. I'll go digest it.


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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby WoodButcher » January 14th 2015, 1:58pm

Seeing that I'm thinking, extend / lengthen the bar with the casters from the body 2" or so and move the pivot at the door forward that same number.

First conclusion, what do you think?
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby Lumpy [OP] » January 14th 2015, 2:49pm

WoodButcher wrote:Seeing that I'm thinking, extend / lengthen the bar with the casters from the body 2" or so and move the pivot at the door forward that same number.

First conclusion, what do you think?


I couldn't make a whole lot out of that tutorial for the Furd doors. Just not getting a clear picture of how their hardware works and if it's the same or similar as ours.

But I think you've hit on the complication that I keep seeing any time I think about lengthening that rear/middle trolly thing on ours. Just making it longer works in the open position but then will give it problems closing. So what we need in ours is to somehow make that hardware LONGER when it's open but then back to normal length when it's closed. OR to move the door portion of the connection appropriately forward to allow it all to still happen (your concept). Your idea seems simpler than some kind of "folding bracket" solution.

Unlike the Furds, mine is WELDED to the door (all of them are?). That doesn't make mod's impossible at all but it doesn't make experimentation simple. If it were bolted we could tryout spacers and/or bolt it to different parts of the door and what not just to see what would happen.


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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby chevy57bert » January 14th 2015, 3:53pm

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A few more.. just make it a little longer..
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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby Lumpy [OP] » January 14th 2015, 5:14pm

Can you show us more please Bert?

Show it open/closed? Show it from the INSIDE when closed? Construction details etc?

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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby chevy57bert » January 14th 2015, 7:10pm

I can`t .. Sorry.. not my Astro..
if the hinge is not to long it will fit perfect ..

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Re: Solving the Slider Door with Big Tires Problem

Postby WoodButcher » January 15th 2015, 3:52am

I notice in those pics the latch is not screwed in place. Bert, did you see this yourself and it worked?
I can't imagine that working without a modification of the track.


Wait a minute, the first pic w/o the pins in place the center bar is upside down,,,
the pic with the bolts in might fly.
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