moogbushings.com is a FRUADULANT SITE!!!!

[jrsride2002]

OK, so I did a significant amount of reading on this site for which parts to get, and Moog is the good stuff. When I did a search for Moog parts, I stumble upon Moogbushings.com... To make a long story short, I spent $819.37 on front end stuff that I NEED to replace, and then they took the money and ran with it.

I just got back from the bank, and filed a federal internet crime claim also... Not putting to much faith in that, but if they get him, he's F'ed!!!

Now im not saying anything is wrong with moog products but that site is not there to help you out... Now that all is said and done, which site to I order from?!?

Thanks
~Junior

[Phantom]

http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/mfr,MOOG

Most major auto parts stores also carry MOOG

MOOG is owned by Federal- Mogul corp.

[jrsride2002]

Thank you Phantom!

Looking through there now.
~Junior

[sasktrini]

I would report the incident to moog bushings.

I guess it would be Federal Mogul...

http://www.federalmogul.com/en/BrandSelector?brand=Moog

[jrsride2002]

That was a good idea, so I did call the legal dept, and left a general message... we'll see how that goes..

Ordered my parts again! This time through Rockauto... Spent WAY less then the fraud place, go figure right? If they're gonna rip ya off, they're going to do it big!

~Junior

[WoodButcher]

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. So who is this peach of society? Where are they from and how long have they been in operation? You have a bunch of curious cats by the tail here.

[Phantom]

I checked out the site and I did not find any "contact us' link , no telephone number no address no way to find their location , I would report them to as many fraud authorities as i could find

They may be in a place like Nigeria, if that is the case you may never get your money back


http://www.moogbushings.com/home.php

[WoodButcher]

Yeah Phantom, I looked too. Junior had to get some detail to pay them and that site is quite elaborate. Banner ads for other sites, google connections.
If you look here http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19 look at the stikied threads, you may find your man.
You will find numerous scammers, some that setup sites like this and all info available on them. A little info combined with some digging may get junior a little satisfaction as well as warning others to this type of scam.

[jrsride2002]

I checked out the site and I did not find any "contact us' link , no telephone number no address no way to find their location , I would report them to as many fraud authorities as i could find

They may be in a place like Nigeria, if that is the case you may never get your money back

I hit bank up this morning, and they gave me a temporary credit until their investigation is completed, in 90 days... On top of that, they gave me phone number and state of origin. AND it came up as a different website: "FASTER THAN THEM.COM 612-481-7680, AZ", the bank called the phone number and they said it was a disconnected number. I tried it and it went to an general voice mail recording, for T-Mobile. And that number is based in Minnesota....

BBB.org did make a hit for me:
Fasterthanthem.Com
1050 E. Ray Road, #A5-213
Chandler, AZ 85225

Did some more google(ing?) and found out that address is a, "Postal Connection" where, if I am right, they rent out mailboxes like a Post Office. Being that I know that kind of business, non of the employees there are allowed to give out nor confirm the existence of any mailbox renter there unless you are an officer of the law(RESPECT MY AU-THORI-TY!)

Yeah Phantom, I looked too. Junior had to get some detail to pay them and that site is quite elaborate. Banner ads for other sites, google connections.

Yea, I thought it was ok, but as it has been pointed out, no "Contact Us" link or nothing... Both sites look kinda legit, but both sport the same icon in the address bar. But the THIRD site has its own logo.. YES!!! A THIRD SITE!!! Google also link that address to "allexhaust.com" which has the same layout/format as the other two, just different colors


I am going to start a complaint with BBB.org right now, any other places you guys my recommend?

Thanks for helping me spread the word on this CRAP!! I just hope the bank investigation pulls through and I get the keep that, "CREDIT"!!
~Junior

[WoodButcher]

The best shot at actually getting these peckerheads is to do the most of the legwork yourself and then hand the proper authorities the info you have found. Local cops don't do this and the feds are too busy to bother with pissants like you and me that pay their salaries. If your lucky and find the persons responsible then luckier still, able to find someone in authority willing to do something with the info the crooks may be held accountable.
I had my identity stolen some years ago, been there done that and feel your pain. Document everything, the websites, print out screenshots. Take names and numbers and notes from everyone you speak to, cops, banks, feds, everything. Contact google also, they will have website info, more billing info I'm sure. There are consumer groups that play with this stuff too, google everything you can think of.

[Phantom]

Good to hear the bank is giving you a credit , at least for the time being , It may be of some help if you contact Chris Hanson@ Dateline @NBC Television network he has covered internet frauds scams and has even tried to track the fraud perps all the way to Nigeria , very deep sophisticated scams at times. He maybe able to locate or help advise you in finding the website owners and the people who operate it, also google search internet fraud and you may find some useful help there as well . good luck and keep us posted .

[paintdrying]

Good thing you paid with a credit card. This is the banks problem. A very big one at that. A friend of mine is always telling me things that sound total nuts. He claims the end of ordering stuff on line is nearing. He claims that the fraud is so great it will make it next to impossible to get transactions through safely. I still think he is just a whack job because he told me the US dollar was going to crash and create a local only economy. He is very well connected which makes me wonder.

[JuneauCabbie]

I checked out the site and I did not find any "contact us' link , no telephone number no address no way to find their location , I would report them to as many fraud authorities as i could find

Whois reports

Registrant:
Faster Than Them Corp
1050 E Ray Rd Auite A5-213
Chandler, Arizona 85225
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MOOGBUSHINGS.COM
Created on: 11-Mar-09
Expires on: 11-Mar-12
Last Updated on: 12-Mar-11

Administrative Contact:
McConnel, Craig Sales@fasterthanthem.com
Faster Than Them Corp
1050 E Ray Rd Auite A5-213
Chandler, Arizona 85225
United States
(480) 626-4292 Fax --

Obviously, you want any credit card charges reversed. Then visit ripoffreport.com and report them so others won't get ripped off.

Before I buy from a site that I know nothing about, I usually check out the domain name at resellerratings.com. moogbushings.com has no listing there, so I would have ordered somewhere else.

[WoodButcher]

Before I buy from a site that I know nothing about, I usually check out the domain name at resellerratings.com. moogbushings.com has no listing there, so I would have ordered somewhere else.

Good advice but many places are not going to be listed with them. I needed a rear end and found many junkyards that replied when I posted on Junkyarddog.com, finally I went through ebay, paid w/ paypal and my bank card. I felt better but still didn't like spending $500 sight unseen.
In junior's case there are many places to get moog parts, he just made a noob mistake. This is what these crooks live on and many are very good at it.It makes me wish that we had a "system of retribution" rather than "justice", An eye for an eye sometimes would make me very happy.