I have just stumbled upon this picture of someones aftermarket air filter install.
Food for thought? :think:
Food for thought? :think:
I have watched your speedo many times.... I think I can take ya. Let me see what I can do without breaking too many laws...lol... Guess we'll see what happens. Let me reach in my back pocket for a can of woop A!@... as soon as I find it... I'll let you know... crap, My phone hates life. It won't charge on the computer anymore (so it also doesn't download), only the wall charger and that's even intermittent! I still owe money on this crappy phone eh.chevymaher said:It wasn't just psychological on my stock 4.3.
Completely factory engine with just the timing advanced.
It definitely ran better than it did in stock tune.
Open air filter, better flowing exhaust, Blocked EGR, made more significant gains.
Then it blew a oil line from rubbing/wear. Spun a few rods and got ported with a cam. When it was re-built.
It is just a engine. It don't care how people talk about it. Do the improvements it responds like any other engine does.
Yea but your missing my point every time.cowboydan said:I have watched your speedo many times.... I think I can take ya. Let me see what I can do without breaking too many laws...lol... Guess we'll see what happens. Let me reach in my back pocket for a can of woop A!@... as soon as I find it... I'll let you know... crap, My phone hates life. It won't charge on the computer anymore (so it also doesn't download), only the wall charger and that's even intermittent! I still owe money on this crappy phone eh.
So when are you going to put your van on a rolling road? Anyone can make claims but this really needs to be backed up with some real proof rather than just hear say and speculation.cowboydan said:I easily make V8 power with it. My 4.3 is all stock internals with a new timing chain.
Really? Why don't you show me proof of why my set up doesn't work rather than just "claim it doesn't, Back up your statement with actual proof.... then we will talk. Otherwise don't waste my time. I'm here voluntarily to assist others with there mechanical woes with my experiences and sometimes get others perspective. Your statement is not helpful on any level bud. Good thing you didn't post this on my ram air topic I might be more offended. I can show why the pic for this topic doesn't work, that's why i'm posting. What do you wish to accomplish with your statement? Please feel free to use my pics since all you have on hand is someone elses idea anyway... shouldn't be to hard eh.Ben_R said:So when are you going to put your van on a rolling road? Anyone can make claims but this really needs to be backed up with some real proof rather than just hear say and speculation.cowboydan said:I easily make V8 power with it. My 4.3 is all stock internals with a new timing chain.
Wow Calm down dear it's just a comment! No need to be so tetchy or defensive :rofl:cowboydan said:What do you wish to accomplish with your statement?
FYI the picture I posted was just spitballing, hence the comment "Food for thought?"cowboydan said:Please feel free to use my pics since all you have on hand is someone elses idea anyway... shouldn't be to hard eh
This is what i call Cowell Induction, using high pressure from the windshield. Yes, it's effective. It's also on my 1980 regal. The system on my van however, actually uses the clutch fan to enhance the intakes designed effectiveness as apposed to just forward motion. I did remove the fan all together and my system became less effective at all speeds, but highway speeds.markmitch said:I agree with the cooler denser air idea but as hood scoops go a rear facing scoop yields more then a forward scoop as has been proven over the years with various racing styles. And thats coming from a guy with a forward scoop.
Nothing like a bit of modesty :bow:cowboydan said:You have yet you make an effort to succeed while I hold success in my hand, Brilliant Theory and execution of words
I assumed (wrongfully) that you were taking about the 350 V8, see quote below. Maybe you should have been more specific?!cowboydan said:who said anything about a 350?
If you had before & after data (before you say it, no, it's not a requirement) it might help members decide when considering the benefits vs. the effort/cost of this mod. I know that not everyone has time to do the numbers and post them here post but people will appreciate it.cowboydan said:I easily make V8 power with it
Pot, Kettle, Black :doh: What interests? Also how would I know your "closest contender" is a 4.8 V8? Again the onus is on you to be more specific.cowboydan said:That would be you trying to put words in my mouth to suit your interests. My closest v8 contender is the 4.8 V8.... But you know that.
I didn't said it was effective and I'm certainly not looking to eat it. Did you mean beneficial? As already posted above, I was just spitballing. Maybe you don't understand the term, let me explain it for you. Spitballing - To toss ideas around with no expectation of them coming to pass, to brainstorm.cowboydan said:The pic you posted "still" isn't effective, therefor not nutritious
Neither does anyone else, it isn't rocket sciencecowboydan said:I have run warm air intakes, I know the end result is not very satisfying. I don't need a dyno to know that
glad we have an understanding. i prefer an experience beating, over spitballing. anyone who tries to enter that term into the dictionary, has large problems that need to be addressed before working on a car with actual grown men tools. please step away from the engine it's not a trinketBen_R said:Wow, that made my eyes hurt :shock:
Nothing more than an illogical, nonsensical, irreverent post.
Just the sort of thing I come to expect of someone who acts like a spoiled child, throwing their toys out of the pram whenever someone dares question their mod or it's benefits by asking for real world data. If you can't handle a bit of questioning every now and again by members without acting like a child life must be very difficult for you. Grow up and take it on the chin.
As George Carlin once said, "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
On that note, I won't put up with an conceited individual who professes superior self knowledge. Well done, you are the first member to make it onto my ignore list.
Bye bye :wave:
There is an actual topic for this conversation. It's relevant, because gas is expensive, and the 4.3 can actually be made to run economically in ways a V8 could only dream of. The V8 is a dated design that struggles for survival. I'll be glad when it's gone. the only credit it deserves, is that when it makes a lot of power, it's even worse on gas. I'll race you to the next gas station, isn't just a joke, it makes, the v8 a real joke. gas prices go down temporarily, but when they rise, it's more permanent. the v8 is a wallet busting joke imo.OrangeAnimal said:All this talk about V6 vs. V8 is nonsense if ya ask me. I have been there done that. Built a 3.8 up that was in my 1980
El Camino. Never ran as good as I hoped but it was quick for a 305 missing to cylinders. I should have dropped a 350 in it and been done with it. If you want a fast V6 look at GNX or T Type Buicks. Turbo that's all you need to know. I would love to see one of these with the full Typhoon or Syclone drivetrain in them. That would be awesome.
But I like both. My hopped up V-6.cowboydan said:There is an actual topic for this conversation. It's relevant, because gas is expensive, and the 4.3 can actually be made to run economically in ways a V8 could only dream of. The V8 is a dated design that struggles for survival. I'll be glad when it's gone. the only credit it deserves, is that when it makes a lot of power, it's even worse on gas. I'll race you to the next gas station, isn't just a joke, it makes, the v8 a real joke. gas prices go down temporarily, but when they rise, it's more permanent. the v8 is a wallet busting joke imo.