I can't verify the fit yet, but I think they will. I've looked at a lot header pics. Ones that fit and those that don't. And pics of exhaust manifolds.
I'm pretty good at 3 dimensional modelling in my head.
I got them on eBay, for less than half of their original price, which was crazy insane. The bare headers are stainless steel and are over 300 and that titanium ceramic finish about doubles that.
They are spec'd for 88-95 Chevy pick up trucks which some have said are the lineage of the pacesetter's that everyone says fit the Astro.
Also, they don't have that long/wide primary tube on the driver side of the s10 headers that are said to NOT fit the Astro.
Ran into the same problem with my wheel hitting the caliper. I used 1/4 inch spacers and a grinder to shave the caliper a touch. Works great. If you have your heart set onto those wheels. You may need longer wheel studs but mine worked.
Hey dcsleeper, I know that you were acquiring parts when the best prices pop up, but did you happen to get around to installing that pan yet? Or do you have a plan for which filter to put in? I don't know how to search for a compatible filter.
I was ready to have the #A8493 pan thrown in with an order and I've hit a wall due to my inexperience.
The aluminum pan's about 1/8'' shallower than most of ours (I think). Not many reviews for this pan, but a very similar one has the same depth of only 2 7/8'' and an Astro owner had sent theirs back because of it. That Astro owner already had the longer tranny filter and was scared that it wouldn't fit in the shallower pan. Most of the cheap aluminum pan reviews say that the pan's description is only accurate if talking about a 700-R4 tranny and that it needs to say more about how it'd be on a 4160E. It does fit 4160E, but it's assumed depth (or lack of it) is their complaint.
Both my vans have what I think is the regular deep pan (look like a child's step stool flipped upside down) and seem 3''s deep.
*I don't know if the deeper/longer trans. filter has any wiggle room on the shaft/tube to slide up an extra 1/8'' to fit properly in this pan. Shorter trans. filter is prolly too short? I dunno if the male shaft on the longer filter can just be trimmed down 1/8'' or if modding the shorter filter to be longer is the ticket.
I've seen some members give links to a Dorman pan they call a ''deep pan'' and on the same thread folks link a REALLY DEEP ''extra capacity pan'' only calling it a ''deep pan'' as well - there's a 5/8''s difference between the two. Maybe they use a different filter for each of those pans or maybe deep pan filters are adjustable and I'm just overthinking things?
I like this pan and it is cheap, but I don't know what filter to order for it or if I'm painting myself into a corner. I've searched the forum and didn't see any install of this pan. Figured asking here may help both of us if you haven't swapped it in yet.
*Basically, I just need someone to tell me that I won't have any problem finding a filter for the pan so that I can order it.
Which filter that would be is just bonus points.
I haven't gotten around to this yet. Other vehicles have taken my attention.
I know that there are 'shallow' and 'deep' filters.
I have confidence that I will be able to find an appropriate filter. Other than that, I got nothing. If I come up with something I will post it.
At first I thought they switched units, but then realized they just cut the drive shaft shorter, to fit it in a shipping box.
They could not have made much money on that unit, after the shipping costs all the way across the country.
But, I am not complaining.
Rod J
Issaquah, WA
Thanks dcsleeper, especially for the word ''shallow'' as opposed to short/shorter.
It all started when I'd noticed Assault Racing has free shipping for purchases of $100 or more when buying directly from them. Their distributors are only in the high $40s, buying two didn't quite hit the $100 mark. Then I saw that this pan was only 30-ish, has a plug and cools better - but it's 2 7/8'' depth spooked me. So I just grabbed a cheap bag of nuts & bolts to get the free ship. You've already got a dizzy but maybe the info helps another member save. IF they're shopping for the Skip ****** kind and don't mind buying two, it's way less per unit compared to buying from their Amazon listing.
I looked into the pan a good bit since posting, info varies wildly. The happy go lucky reviews & the asked/answered questions for these types of pans didn't address it enough to ease my mind. If just one person had broke it down by saying: worst case scenario the shallow filter could drop down a 1/4'' after install but it would not effect the seal - I'd have felt better about it. There's definitely not enough room in this pan for it to fall completely off.
Almost all comments were from 700-R4 buyers who's shallow filter couldn't possibly be resting on the bottom of the pan. I'd bet that most are unaware of that and maybe the others think (or know) it doesn't matter if the filter fell down a bit later on - it's only 1/4'' difference max. One buyer from another seller stood out, he claimed that his pan came with a ''filter extension and a filter.'' The most solid comment regarding filters was a man who'd said that he'd ''made a spacer for the pan.'' But he gave no details of if he put a spacer on the shallow filter itself, under it or very unlikely in the pan's gasket to fit a deeper/longer filter.
If it was me, I'd wrap a piece of stainless wire out of the way on the shallow filter and shape it to have 3-4 little raised bumps for tiny legs. Those legs would flex/bend when tightening down the pan. Prolly overboard but I'm only a professional cheapskate, not a mechanic.
Just sharing what I did or didn't learn from researching it.
Deaf, you know what these huge paragraphs do to most of us - *eyes glazed over*
uhhh... where was I...? - are we not allowed to hit RETURN or ENTER before posting or submitting ?
Using a godforsaken Phone for everything...?
White Space - the term is lost on most people & cannot get a decent description from G00gull.
Paragraghs - I must have submitted a dirty word...
Seems like easy to read and grammar / spelling rules / suggestions are out the window.
Most all writing rules seem to be following the 280 character rule of msg'g.
Abbreviations, Lingo, Lifestyles, Character and Attitude run communications from here on out.
"longhand" or "Cursive" has gone the way of self respecting african americans and muslims w/ a brain.
Haha, keep those eyes glazed Sixer.
That's the best way to make it through one of my comments.
Spark up as soon as you see my user name pop up.
I'm long winded and my writing/posting skills are as poor as my car repair knowledge.
To be Honest, I DO enjoy reading your posts ( altho, my last post... well ).
The "wire leg crush / pan" dealeo is ingenious.
Saw it done w/ foil wrap under the hood / air cleaner clearance.
dunno why but there are several diffs on ebay right now, several auburn type posis and a couple of Torsens.
Get em while they're hot! That one with pinion marks is no worries!
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