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hey everybody i need help my 93 astro 4.3 non-vortec 2wd sometimes it starts with no stall and sometimes it does nothing i have to keep playing with it for a couple of minutes then it starts, i have a new batt, i took starter off and took it to the parts store to get tested they said it was good,so i dont know what else, i can hear the starter kick but it does nothing
 

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Your starter is turning the motor over and nothing happens OR the starter is engaging & motor doesn't turn over?

What kind of tricks do you have to do to start it eventually?

Check Engine light on?
 

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My 93 Astro did that nonsense. I replaced the starter and it has been fine ever since.If you hear a clicking sound when trying to start, or the starter turns the engine over slowly there are several possible problems to consider. 1. A starter with excessive current draw. 2.Poor or corroded connections at the battery and/or the starter solenoid ( this would include the condition of the cables themselves). Start by inspecting and cleaning the battery connections, and then check the battery's state of charge. If you hear a clicking sound when trying to start, it generally indicates low voltage to the starter. this is often due to bad cable connections. In some cases it is a starter solenoid, but much less often than people think. Sometimes dirt combined with battery acid becomes conductive and can actually put a slow drain on the battery. Does your battery pass a load test? If nothing happens when you turn the key, try turning on the headlights. Do they light? If they light, try starting the engine with the headlights on while someone observes them. Do they dim down and go out or almost out? If they stay bright, you may have a safety switch problem, like an out of adjustment or defective neutral safety switch. To verify neutral switch problem, secure the parking brake and place your foot firmly on the brake pedal. The next time it does nothing use one hand to turn and hold the ignition key on while moving the gearshift lever slowly through its entire range. If suddenly the starter goes you have a neutral switch out of adjustment. If neutral switch tok, next test for voltage drop or loss.This tests condition of the cables.On most tests, 0.2 volts is usually the most allowable voltage loss on a 12 volt system.Disable the ignition so the vehicle can't possibly start.If using an analog voltmeter connect the positive lead to positive post and negative lead to the neg post. Digital meters will function regardless of polarity.Connect meter to the battery's positive post and the other to the starter solenoid stud. Have someone turn the key to start and observe the reading. It should not exceed 0.2 volts.If it does, you can narrow down your test points, and perform the same test with one probe connected to the cable clamp while holding the other directly against the battery's post. Undersized cables will also give you a high reading, and don't be fooled by the thick vinyl coating over the copper wire. You then will check the ground side negative battery post one lead with the other connected to the starter housing. Once again it should not exceed 0.2 volts.On most astro van starters there is a connection at the base of the solenoid that passes thru a rubber grommet into the starter.Be carefull not to touch grounded surface. Once again should not exceed 0.2 volts. If it does replace solenoid. Good Luck :D
 

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Thanks guys for the help. Last night i went out and it did the same thing, so this time i tap the starter with a little hammer while someone turn it over and it started right up, when you have to tap the starter which part has gone bad on the starter, which part should I replace, i didnt want to replace the entire starter if i can replace a part of it and save some dollars. Another thing i was thinking about that neutral switch because i did replace the transmission and my method of cranking it when it acts up is to play with the gear shift while i turn the key. I dont think my starters bad its been tested twice on the machine at autozone and they say your good to go, im gonna go out there in about 30min and check some other things.
 

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I was thinking the same its just a bad starter so thats why i took it off and went to the part store to check it out. they plug it up on that machine shot some fire to it and everything work find.Idk maybe i should just buy another one and see what happens. Thanks
 

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THEY LOOK FIND, IM JUST GONNA REPLACE THE STARTER CAUSE I HAVE TO TAP IT WITH A HAMMER WHILE SOMEONE TURNS THE KEY, iM GONNA MAKE SURE I HAVE A FULLY CHARGE BATT BEFORE. HOPEFULLY IT WORKS. ILL LET EVERYONE KNOW ON MONDAY. THANKS :confused:
 

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Took the starter off and check it put it back on and fired it up about 6 times everything was good, then a minute later same problem no start, I notice my battery voltage looks a little low does it suppose to be under the halfway mark always??? It use to be over the halfway mark when i got the battery a couple months ago. Do you think my battery is to weak because i check the cells out and to me they look kinda low, but you know what that battery is going to the part store in a little bit cause its still under warranty. :screaming:
 

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Did you put a new starter on or just take the old one off and clean it. I can't see it beening the battery, cause if the battery was low just tapping on the starter would not magicaly make more power. I say it almost sounds like you have a bad spot in the interal wiring of the starter itself.
 
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