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2003 Astro AWD LT, 145k mis, current owner 2 years

Developed “binding” a few months ago, in front wheels during tight slow turns and sometimes when shifting out of park into reverse. Local mechanic didn’t see any obvious problems in front drive, transmission tech also did not see obvious front drive problem or any problem with transmission (though neither tech has done a deep-dive diagnosis).

Prior to appearance of binding, had bounced the undercarriage off of a loose parking lot curb, which broke a gasket seal. Binding problem appeared after service to repair that leaking transfer case gasket, and then replacement of front drive shaft (when original shaft couldn’t be re-installed without vibration, following gasket repair). Binding developed some days after replacement of drive shaft, but I would not guess these repairs are necessarliy related to the development of binding.

After a couple of weeks of binding, AWD dash light started to appear intermittently (more often off than on).

First repair attempt was to replace transfer case with one from previous Astro (same model and year) that I had owned, so I knew that this replacement transfer case and encoder motor were in good working order. Also, new transfer case fluid (from earlier gasket repair) was transferred from original unit to replacement transfer case, so fluid must be good. But this change of transfer case, encoder motor and fluid had no effect on binding symptom. Tried pulling ATC fuse, to no effect. No changes made to tires or wheels, pressures OK.

Wondering whether the AWD dash light indicates an electrical problem. Maybe harness connections were not good after original repairs (or wires damaged) ? Or is TCM bad (would have to be just coincidental to earlier parking lot bounce and repairs) ?

Or, is there something in the front drive line – CV joint, axle u-joint – that is broken ? Not hearing any sound that would be typical of CV joint failure. Trans tech said that the front differential is probably OK because there is not an audible sound from it (and fluid level has been checked). Van drives just fine when not making tight turns.

What say you ?
 

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If you pulled the ATC fuse and the binding still exists, then it's not an electrical issue.
My binding went away when I pulled mine.
(note the AWD light stays on when fuse is pulled)

Only thing I can think of is a sticking encoder motor.
I've also heard they can be put in wrong? Not sure about that
 

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Thanks for your reply, Mmusicman. Good point about the fuse. The encoder motor looks to be integral to the transfer case, so I would not think that motor installation would be a problem when swapping cases. Am I missing something ?
 

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I thought I had heard the gear could be aligned wrong.. but again I have no experience with this
 

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Just visited briefly with a GM service rep at a dealer. After my description above, he thought that this might be a vaccum issue (e.g., pinched vac hose). First I've heard/read about vacuum on this AWD drive system. Is this reasonable ?

Another posting mentioned timing between front and rear drive shafts. Could binding be caused by incorrect installation of a new front drive shaft (described above) ?
 

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Thanks for chiming in, Stroverlander. Local mech had supposedly used correct fluid, and trans tech tranfered it. I assume that they used Auto-Trak II fluid, and I thought that I'd asked that very question of at least one of these techs (maybe both of them). BUT, this is a simple thing to check, so I'll try to get to that.

Anyone have thoughts on a mechanical cause, outside of the transfer case/encoder motor, itself ?
 
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