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Fuep pump has power but dioesn't run

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Not your typical 'old pump', but old one and new one. I've read much here on the subject but can't find a problem like mine hence the new post. 2003 Safari RWD passenger van.

First some background: The van started and drove fine but overheated. I did the head gaskets etc, but not all at once. I bolted torqued the heads and rockers, but money, health, and general crap stopped me at that point. The tank showed below empty on the guage and stayed that way as it sat. Now 3 years later I need it as my big van is nearly dead, so I finished everything except the belt, fan, and shroud since I need to replace the heater control valve and wanted access. On the "big day" it turned over fine but no run. Thinking I had the pancake 180 degrees out I turned it around- still no go. I checked spark at the coil- hot spark. I'm thinking "must be fuel related" so i shot carb cleaner in the intake and still no go. Rechecking everything for the unpteenth time I put the pancake back, hit the carb cleaner again and now she runs again- YAAAY! But only tlll the carb cleaner is done. I pressed in on the schrader valve on the fuel rail- nothing. I swapped the A/C and fuel pump relays- nothing. I put the test light to the relay and have voltage across the electromagnet plus power into the relay. Not a sound at the tank even after banging on it. I check for power there and get the 2- second 'prime' cycle then power drops out. Ground shows continuity there. Still no running fuel pump even with more banging during the prime cycle so I figured the fuel pump went bad while it sat. I just replaced the pump (will do a write-up on the floor cutting as my 2003 was a bit different than what I found) and am still not getting a running pump. I tied in a solid outboard jumper to ground and ran a hot straight from the battery to the pump- still nothing. It's a "Precision" cheapo pump as that's all I had money for and I'll drop a GM in there ASAP. Had to swap harness connections as per the instructions. triple checked those for color and good connection at the butt terminal joins. Swapped relays and jumped relay power out again just in case and still no running pump, not even for prime even with banging on it.

The only in-tank GM pump I have experience with was on my old Buick many years ago. As best I remember it had only 4-5 wires; this one has 4 to the pump connector and 3 to another connector. I can't see why so many- two for pump and two for gauge makes sense, more doesn't. I don't know what the extra wires do so I'm stuck. I absolutely have to have this van running in 5 days or I lose job, home, and everything else even if I have to straight-wire the pump through a switch but I can't even figure out how to do that. It would be nice to have it work as it's supposed to but for now all I need is some way to make the fuel pump run. I'll deal with the flat spot on my forehead from banging it into the wall all day myself- I KNOW how to handle that!

Thanks in advance,
Phil
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I tied in a solid outboard jumper to ground and ran a hot straight from the battery to the pump- still nothing.
Hey Phil, sounds like a bad pump. Of the 7 wires, the two heavy gauge wires are for the fuel pump, the rest are for the level sender and the fuel tank pressure sensor.

I highly recommend getting the GM Techline eSI(see link in sig) as it's the digital factory service manual and details all testing/repairs/diagrams/etc that you could possibly need. Or at the very least grab the wiring diagrams so you know what you are looking at.
Yes, should be submerged in fuel though.
What wires would I feed?
The two heavy wires that feed the pump.
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So if you are looking into the square connector that plugs into the pump housing with the locking tab on the top, the top left above the notch would be the supply voltage and the bottom right would be the ground for the pump. Top right is sensor signal, bottom left would be the reference voltage.
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Awesome Phil, glad to hear that you got it wired correctly now.
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