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I'm going to preface this questions with I know nothing about tires.

I currently have 4 Firestone Destination A/Ts (P205/75R15) on my 2000 Astro (RWD) and one of them has dry rot. Should I just replace the single tire, two or all four. If so, what would be an equivalent replace for the make/brand I currently have? It looks like the one's I currently have are discontinued. Also, if I buy tires online, how do I get them on my car.

These feel like these are simple questions, so go easy on me 馃槗
 

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Depends on the overall condition/age/wear of the other tires. If they aren't in good shape or are super old, I would replace them all. With an AWD it's important that the tire circumference matches closely all around.

RWD and the rest are in great shape with plenty of tread then you might be able to replace 1 tire if they are close enough. Or maybe replace 2 of them, keeping the worst one for a full sized spare.

Not sure what would be the newer version of that tire, could ask the MFG.

If you buy them online you can have them installed at virtually any tire/repair shop. Some might charge you more for bringing in your own tires. I usually use Walmart(because they are nation wide and I usually get the lifetime rotation/balancing) or a small local shop to get tires installed.

Also, while you did put the year in your post, it helps if you put details like your year/model/engine/awd/conversion/etc in your signature line or your profile so we know what we are working with in the future. https://www.astrosafari.com/account/signature
 

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If one has dry-rot they all must be old. I like the idea of having good rubber on my van. I bought six grabbers on line then paid a local shop to mount and balance. You don鈥檛 say if you are AWD if you are AWD remember all tires must be the same size. So if the old ones are half worn one new one may create problems. Tires are always on sale somewhere so shop. Best wishes Ken
 

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Depends on the overall condition/age/wear of the other tires. If they aren't in good shape or are super old, I would replace them all. With an AWD it's important that the tire circumference matches closely all around.

RWD and the rest are in great shape with plenty of tread then you might be able to replace 1 tire if they are close enough. Or maybe replace 2 of them, keeping the worst one for a full sized spare.

Not sure what would be the newer version of that tire, could ask the MFG.

If you buy them online you can have them installed at virtually any tire/repair shop. Some might charge you more for bringing in your own tires. I usually use Walmart(because they are nation wide and I usually get the lifetime rotation/balancing) or a small local shop to get tires installed.

Also, while you did put the year in your post, it helps if you put details like your year/model/engine/awd/conversion/etc in your signature line or your profile so we know what we are working with in the future. https://www.astrosafari.com/account/signature
The person I bought it from had them replaced at the end of 2020. I did have my car sitting for a few months, which contributed to the rot, but the other 3 look fine (but what do I know). RWD 4.3L V6 LS (just added to my signature, thanks for the suggestion).
 

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Buying online..might not be a very good deal unless you can find someone reasonable to put them on.I bought a new looking rim online and found a good condition matching tire for a spare to put on it.The local Discount Tire charged me $30 to put the loose tire on a newer rim and balance it..no take off!I guess I got a valve stem and ten minutes of labor for the $30!
I found a set of snow tires for free on craigs that fit my Astro,used one season..I was going to have someone put them on..but I ended up going to Harbor Freight and buying one of the manual tire changers for $58 with sales tax.It took me a couple hours to take off four and mount two tires,,but I've never done it before and their instructions were really vague.After I figured out the easy way,I'm a lot faster now.Harbor Freight wants $75 for a tire balancer...I figure maybe I can design my own..It's worth a shot.
I'm assuming if I buy tires online,I better expect about $40-50 apiece to have my old ones removed and the new ones put on and balanced(4=$160/5=$200 .. plus disposal fees and taxes).... but you'll get pretty new valve stems!:love:
(editting one more point in...)My old Michelins showed very faint rot lines when filled with air. Once I started to remove them,those small cracks became CA seismic fault lines!..It's best to replace them all if you notice one is rotten or check them over really well, inside and out.Let some air out with the weight on them and fill them back up to specs..When they are low on air(say 20lbs) you'll have a better idea of how bad the cracks are,especially the sidewalls.
 

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I buy online and my local independent Tres Hermanos tire shop does mount and balancing for $15 per wheel.
If they are around here in the north end of Seattle's outskirts.I'll let them do my work! The only ads I see are for "$20 and up" for mounting and balancing...which means probably $20 for13" tires..plus this..and plus that..depending on the bigger sizes..

Post what town you/they are in..and give THEM the business.
Hmm.."How come we are suddenly getting a bunch of Astros and Safaris?"馃榿
 

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My little local shop charged me $10 for mounting and balancing my full sized spare. I think Walmart is $5 for mounting and 10 or 15 for lifetime balancing.
 

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It doesn't matter the name of the shop..but it is a good idea to let people here know who to go to for a good deal!Right now things are going through the roof around here as far as prices in the Seattle area..Most house values have gone up 40-50% over the last say 5 years.My neighbor who bought his house for $450K 6 years ago..just sold it for more than offered at $920K,with people fighting over it..that's how crazy it is! Every house is selling like that here.Another friend about 3-4 years ago sold his 3 bedroom rental beater in a "same type of beater neighborhood" for $625K..when it was offered at around $500K.That same person just sold his other cinder block house for a huge amount and now lives in Kona,HI with 40 acres..
Everything else $$-wise is going crazy here.Grocery stores and others are increasing their prices daily..I bought a cooler online from Home Depot for $39(plus tax..) the next MORNING online it was $54.95.I took copies of the info to the store in case they didn't want to honor my buy..
I'm all for giving the little guy that has reasonable prices my business!

One thing that hasn't been addressed much on this thread is the "tire size" situation(Astrowill mentions the importance of adding the model when shopping for them).If one shops for tires online you find that a "X" year Astro will have maybe 3 different tires sizes(shop "GoodYear") called out for several models of the same year,for instance..my 1990 Astro calls out the 205/75/R15s for the cargo/short model,My CL AWD EXT calls out a 215/75/R15,and for another model "conversion?)that size is something X/60/R15..so knowing and adding the "model" is important if you want to get the OEM size...when shopping for tires online or otherwise.

I put 205/75/R15s on my 1990,even though it called out for slightly larger ones for my model. ..because I got them for for a good price with a set of Astro wheels.I'm not lifting the van,using it for construction work, or going long distances with it.. and 90% of the time it'll be empty and local runs with maybe a weekend within a 100 miles for camping.The tires were winter ones about 90% new,all season tread for mud,dirt roads,winter slush,accumulated rain,and seaweed- slimy boat ramps in my case.I pulled the studs(see tips onYoutube..no big task!)The Michelin 215/75/R15s(size called for) I had on before barely cleared the body in turning(like 1/4"!). Just driving that van NOW around the circular driveway here,it seems a lot more "peppy" and turns a lot easier,especially compared to the 2004 which now feels like a slug in comparison. The second set of tires I got for free(both sets off Craigslist) are 215/70/R15..supposedly "off a 1990 Astro"(no wheels included)..which seem to be pretty close to the same diameter or circumference..same brand/model as the other set,just different slightly in size tire with studs.By winter this year, they'll be on my original Astro Alloy rims I need to restore yet(I mounted two to see how they look and size-wise with air in them compared to the others)..I'll switch them all 4 out(AWD)..and if needed, pull those studs also.
Around here,if it snows(rarely more than a day or two per year),people freak out,line up, and buy studded tires on the first day of snow..,keep a second set,when they MUST fight traffic and get to work..and barely use them,maybe not even at all for the following next year's winter season because it didn't snow more than a trace that year..They have to be changed out by April 1st when it becomes illegal to run studs..Most smaller cities here don't even plow roads,don't have the equipment.Salt is rarely used except at uphill intersections,on MAJOR arterials,or freeway overpasses(places with tendency to ice up)..(Thank Gawd! Astros/Safaris around here rarely have ANY rust!).Constant winter rain washes any salt off the roads and bottoms of cars.
For example as far as the roadwork:This year was another record year for snow..like 10" laying on the ground and temperatures dipped down into the teens(when My Ford van was stolen,they couldn't move it 50 feet into the fenced yard because of a tiny driveway hill,next to a 10" snow covered arterial).),most business places close down.Our "collector arterial " street (major residential street that goes to Hwy99..about every ten blocks) was plowed maybe only once or twice,side streets not at all..over one week's "snow" time.The city relied more on all the people with 4 wheel drive,All wheel,Front wheel drive to pack it down for them.Most people just stay home knowing it'll soon pass for the year,work from home..offices,and stores close,etc..The first day of snow..there can be 200 wrecks out there!People go bonkers with snow here! It might take two hours to go 15 miles..it;'s hilarious!..unless you get stuck in the traffic.馃槚
 

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It doesn't matter the name of the shop..but it is a good idea to let people here know who to go to for a good deal!
Here is another tip for cheap tire shopping or shopping in general. Freight salvage. The tires on my van came from a freight salvage place. I got a set of 5 matching BF Goodrich Long Trails for about $70 each.

Many metro areas of moderate size or larger have a place that sells stuff that was lost freight, slightly damaged or returned merchandise. There is an enormous amount of waste in the American economy and it all ends up in places like this. My city has a couple of these places. They have several weekly auctions as well as retail sales stores. It's a bit like an indoor flea market. My favorite has three vast warehouses. The boys from the Tres Hermanos tire shop buy truckloads of tires to resell at their shop so you have to be in the right place at the right time to compete with them.

Every few weeks the warehouse puts out a new batch of tires, anywhere from 20-100 tires. The high demand stuff gets picked over quickly. After a week they discount the prices to move the less desireable merch that is still left. After a few weeks whatever is left is 70-80% off the original discounted price. At that point you won't get any matched sets but you may get a good deal on airplane tires or lawn tractor tires or even drag slicks.

They have a vast array of merchandise. Some of it has shipping damage of various degrees. If you are handy and can fix stuff you can get amazing deals. For example they always have damaged air compressors because they are top heavy and tip over during shipping. They may have a busted fan shroud or damaged electrical cord that can be easily fixed. Sometimes major damage though.
 
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