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webcat said:
Why is it a shame that he did'nt post pictures of his tooth patterns for the backlash ? Dont you trust that he researched it out and adjusted his backlash correctly ?
Infidel , I think you did a outstanding job with this write up !
Here's a picture for referance for people who use this writeup
No, seeing the real thing is far better than looking at a drawing. That's why its a shame. For anyone else that is considering this rebuild, that is the most important picture that could have been taken. I can't stress that enough.

It doesn't matter if I believe he did the research or did it correctly. That's not the point. :confused:
 
Infidel.
Thank you for sharing allthis great info and your pictures and story.

I wondered what this job might be like, and now I have a much better idea.
and several links to even more info.
I think I might giver a go especially if I can find a suitable 10 bolt 8.5 inch. ;)
I've got several astro axles here. I guess a front axle would be the same basic procedure.
Thanks for the encouragement.
I truely appreciate it.
 
I am in need of a rebuild on my Astro rear end...looks like hard work...great write up. If I wanted to put a "better" rear axle in.....what would be a stronger one that would bolt right up??? Thanks
 
nielswheels said:
I am in need of a rebuild on my Astro rear end...looks like hard work...great write up. If I wanted to put a "better" rear axle in.....what would be a stronger one that would bolt right up??? Thanks
read through.....I think it was Mr. Roboto found that older Furd E series have a similar offset, with a 9" R&P, that work in our vans with minimal mods. Not a direct bolt in..there isn't one, but it has a similar offset.
 
rev_les said:
nielswheels said:
I am in need of a rebuild on my Astro rear end...looks like hard work...great write up. If I wanted to put a "better" rear axle in.....what would be a stronger one that would bolt right up??? Thanks
read through.....I think it was Mr. Roboto found that older Furd E series have a similar offset, with a 9" R&P, that work in our vans with minimal mods. Not a direct bolt in..there isn't one, but it has a similar offset.
how much earlier? i missed that thread
 
I tried looking for the thread and came up empty. I did find a thread were GARY says the Ford Van rear ends are offset like ours and are 2" wider overall. Thats all I remember seeing. :shrug:
 
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Here is the ref.

I have a builder near Syr,NY that will build a new housing with alloy axles and a Chevy bolt pattern and a nodular center for only $1,200.You have to supply the locker posi and gears.That would be a bolt in deal with all the brackets and shock mounts.When you consider all of what you get,it is a really good deal.Oh yeah,he builds them to the corrected size too.

When I get to that part of the Ole Yellar project,it will have one of his 9" Ford rear ends.He has been building them for yrs for oval track racers.I saw them at the Syr parts peddler swap meet and they are well done.
 
thanks to everyone who posted and added information to this thread.
using it as a 'good idea' i spent the last 10 days (taking my time) rebuilding my astro's 7.5 (aka 7.65, whatever).

tool purchase aside, i didnt spend too much rebuilding.

i started on the 8th, pulled the axle
on the weekend of the 10, 11 i removed all old parts, marking as i went location, direction, etc.
found the reason for the 'on normal throttle, then off' rear end "whaaaa.... whaaaaa.... whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......" noise.
pinion front seal was shot. allow in grime from the road and wore down the pinion bearings so there was about 2mm of play fwd and backward of the pinion in the axle housing. whoa, kinda scarry. glad i caught it now, else i would have chewed the pinion and ring gears...

i went to o'riley auto parts 3 blocks from my house and ordered some parts.
i had 3 days backlog with the parts, some of them ordered where wrong (brake hardware kits, missing bearing races, and a bearing) but most came in overnight (its nice to have the o'riley dist warehouse in down, west side!).
after all the correct parts came in, i spent an hour here or there, in between the wife, who is 38 weeks pregnant, school, red cross (disaster action team supervisor) and training for the chicago marathon (4+ miles every other day) until this weekend.
this weekend i slapped everything remaining together, tightened the axle down and centered as close as i could.
sat i dropped off @ firestone (a year or 2 ago i purchased 'lifetime' alignment for it- best decision ever, ive used it 5x since) and picked it up at 5pm.

i replaced:
pinion bearings (front and rear)
pinion races (front and rear)
crush sleve (and if ANYONE needs one, i ordered 3x pkgs from rockauto.com, didnt realize that 2x came in each package... pay shipping)
carrier bearings (both sides)
carrier races (both sides)
axle bearings (both)
all new seals
new wheel cylinders
new hardware (drum, all)
new drums
new monroe sensatrack spring asst (height adj) shocks
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
I see that several people have benefited from my experience and this thread. (pretty cool) I wanted to give a final follow-up on the rear end job. I'm happy to say that it still worked great as of last week. (summer 2024) I finally let the old Astro go. The engine still has never been disassembled, the original transmission still strong and the rear-end works great, tight as a drum and completely silent. I loaned the van out to my father-in-law last year and he smashed the front end. I'll spare the details but I l gave it to him and he used it off and on. He donated it to a veterans charity last week. They drove it off under it's own power. (sniff) Anyhow, no regrets on the rear end. I could have made it worse but it all worked out. Thank you to this forum and all the fine users who help others!
 
Infidel, I want to thank you for reviving this thread, and for posting a nice success update!
(I missed it first go around)

I myself am debating how to deal with my worn out rear in my 2000 (with 275K)... either find (and gamble) with a junk yard replacement (easy route) or rebuild. My rear suffered a broken spider gear a few months back, and despite catching it quickly, there was sufficient metal fuzz on magnet (like your photo) It seems to be getting noisier as I continue to drive it (has a growl when I decelerate). I have decades of mechanical experience (I've built engines and transmissions).. but have never done a rear-differential.

I think it's time to learn.
(but the hardest part will be working on the ground under the vehicle)

I bought a GT4 3.73 G80 locker carrier a couple years ago with intention of using it in my 2000 AWD.
If I change it however, I will no longer have a matching front differential.. so I will need to deal with this eventually as well.
I also want to change gear in my 92... so I have two units to do.
(ironically the rear cover on this one has never been off with well over 300K (original factory fluid. lol).. . also now being pushed by a V8)

I considered my time with my 2000 rear temporary at best (despite having just come back from a 1600 mile round trip)
The subtle noise keeps reminding.

I have a friend with experience (and tools) who has offered to help, although I have no issue buying any additional tools I'll need.
(already have the dial indicator and some pullers, as well as experience with bearings and races)
It's the proper setup I will need to learn.


I'm bookmarking this thread.. full of lots of useful info!
It's time!

Thanks!
 
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