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This was brought to my attention in a different forum for a different car...apparently the MG guys are using them as well.

Stock 190hp/275 ft/lbs four cylinder. Aluminum block, 460 Ford cylinder head/rods/pistons, Chevy small block bellhousing and motor mount bolt pattern. It would be a nice upgrade for the 2.5 Astro/Safari....oh, wait, that's still 30hp and 40 ft/lbs more than a Z-code 4.3....

Say hello to the Mercruiser 470 3.7l! With an aluminum Kaase P51 429/460 head...probably more than 190 hp/275 tq.

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Well, one thing is it's not an MG motor...I don't think a 1275 or 1500 would be enough to pull the doghouse off, much less move the whole van! Some info just happen to come from an MG site.

Like I said, stock form is more power than a stock Z code 4.3. Way more power than a 2.5 Astro. So, if you have a rare 2.5 5 speed, you could exceed the power of a 4.3 and still get to keep your weird 4 cylinder van a weird 4 cylinder van. It's not always about ultimate power and slapping a V8 in everything (I'm not dissing the v8, I do have some v8 mounts waiting for the day I decide I actually want to do that).

I just think this is a cool little motor with some real potential for hotrodding. And it sure looks pretty all polished up. Maybe an S10...
 

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All good points, I don't disagree! But I think you are missing the point of this thread....not everyone is looking for tire shredding power.
This is a potential answer for a question no one is really asking! Some people like to do things a little different. As evidenced by the polished motor sitting in the 30s Ford frame in the pics. Sure a v8 is an obvious answer, but he didn't want that answer.
Some people really like "WTF?!" reaction. That's part of the fun.
And again, it's not some little 4 cylinder farty thing, it's 224ci that makes more power stock than the 2.5 or 4.3 Z in the Astros.
 

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Here's a new one...
340-HP 3.6-Liter Four-Cylinder LS-Headed Crate Engine

"In an industrial application, this small package, at only 1,800 rpm, will put out diesel-like torque numbers. If configured for a performance application, this bore and stroke combination could produce well over 300 horsepower and nearly 500 lb-ft of torque!"



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I just ran across the 3.6 article. I'm sure it would be pricey. What makes it interesting is that even though the current generation narrow angle GM v6 is a powerhouse compared to the 54* and 60* v6's of just 15 years ago, this 4 cyl industrial motor is capable of more power than many of the old 'musclecars' that are so revered.

Talk about whatever you want, it's my thread and I see no reason to limit the discussion. I like oddball and nothing struck me as more oddball than a 4 cyl (normally a reason to NEED a swap) that makes as much or more power as the V6 it could replace.

Not sure practicality is a good criteria for most non-stock motor swaps, some just go easier than others. And none of these are really good options if changing out a stock motor is going to be a struggle. The 3.6 will require some headscratching. Since it's not a car motor, it may be easier to convert to carb than even an LS type V8, but without more info...?
The 3.7 boat motor, on the other hand, has a few issues (bellhousing is not exactly a straight bolt up but it's minor, adapting a regular alternator, dropping compression, etc.) but is already a carb motor (4v quadrajet) and the distributor is related to the 4 cyl from the Chevy ll, I think. Still, it requires work to fit it.

Hotrodding the 4.3 is, as you say, the most economical. With fitting in a same year V8 with stock style TBI (or CPI?) being the next cheapest and practical. I think MMusicmans carbed V8 might cost a little more due to buying a new 4v/headers/HEI.

As for finding a mechanic, most seem to want easy repair work. That doesn't seem to include 20-30 year old crusty vans with brittle plastic. Geez, the last mechanic I went to with the van, just to mount tires I bought, they damaged my rockers with the two post lift.
A rebuild shop, if the 4.3 is beyond them, why would you trust them with anything?
 
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