Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby MWeightman [OP] » March 23rd 2015, 3:20am

Hello,

Background:
Having grown up with a '95 GMC Safari and having gone on tons of travel-trailer camping trips with mom and dad, I set out to buy a van so that I could do the same with my family. I'm extremely disappointed that mid sized vans today don't even mention towing capacities (apparently because vans aren't meant to tow anymore), but managed to talk my wife into buying a 2005 Astro. The problem? We don't have a trailer yet, and now that we have two kids and a third on the way, my wife is fed up with the single rear door and wants a different van. Buying a second van is not practical, and I'd hate to give up my Astro for something dinky; buying a travel trailer is still a goal, but my need for four is threatening that goal.

My questions:
1) Has anyone ever added a driver-side rear door? I've looked far and wide, and my searches have found nothing but instructions on replacing the 3 doors already there. I'm afraid of what this means for my Astro, and so in one last desperate attempt, I'm hoping someone out there can help me. I assume structure of the vehicle is an issue, as well as placement of the gas door, but if I can even install a tiny slither of a door just big enough to throw a kid threw and reach my arms in, I might just save my van.

2) Does anyone have any other suggestion? Custom 3-seat lazy-susan seat swivel? 90 degree swinging bench seats? Basically if my wife has to crawl in the back, it's not going to work for her (especially as child 3 gets bigger and bigger in her belly). If I could find a way to enable her to put three kids in their car seats without getting in the back, I might dodge the need for the fourth door. (In anticipation of "Put the kids in for her," I should say that 3 days out of the week, she has to take our kids to preschool and doctor appointments while I'm at work. And I've already tried telling her preschool and doctors are for schmucks, but she's not buying it.)

3) If it comes to it (wincing as I type this :cry: ), what do you think would be a suitable replacement vehicle, considering similar size and towing capacity, and of course, 4 doors?

Thank you in advance!
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby chevymaher » March 23rd 2015, 3:44am

No there is no drivers side door in the back. Unless you want to make one yourself.

They do sell vans with doors on both sides. Get your checkbook ready. You going into a higher Tax bracket.
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby AstroWill » March 23rd 2015, 3:45am

1. I have never seen one either, but I almost bought a full sized van with one.
2. Change out the benches for bucket seats. Part 2: Congrats on your 3rd.
3. I can't bare to think about it right now :)

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby redfury » March 23rd 2015, 4:50am

It's nothing that will come easy. You're going to have to take into account the window that's already there, beefing up the rocker panel....lots of welding and body work. If it's not something you can accomplish yourself, it's going to cost more than you probably paid for the van to have built into it. Not to say that it wouldn't be really, really cool though.
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby Meterpig » March 23rd 2015, 4:53am

Get an awd express with doors on both sides. Do a fly and drive and be ready to pay 15 to 20k. Look on the bright side...it won't depreciate all that much. Tow whatever you want.
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby The Drummer » March 23rd 2015, 6:03am

yep what he sais ,or a promaster
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby RECox286 » March 23rd 2015, 8:36pm

Suburbans are the tractor of choice for doing a trailer behind job. I know it ain't a van, but they do

have all four doors to start with, plus it is ready to tow from the git-go. (mostly) Will drag a full size

trailer, so there is little need to do the set up dance once you are at the campsite. Also, it is nice to

be able to pull to the side of any road for a potty stop, or a quick bite to eat in comfort. Sleeps enough

wee-bees that you don't have to practice family planning either. Aunt Tillie gets the couch in front,

Bobbie and Johnie can have the table bed, and Mum 'n' Dad get the rear bed...Baby Sweetums ? (the crib

between) Then there is always the upper bunk over the front couch to fill up ! Ha.

Roughing it ? TV, take with shower, water heater, microwave, refrigerator, +++ you name it...Even a

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby Roger Ramjet » March 23rd 2015, 10:27pm

What about putting a single barn door on the drivers side .. door from a older chevy van

but then next she'll want this too .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huEmwxFwpTg
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby smokinjoe » March 24th 2015, 5:51pm

I think the bottom line is that you will spend way more on fabricating the door and supporting hardware than buying even a brand new van that comes with one.

And that's IF you can convince someone to do it, which would be difficult.

You would have an easier time convincing your wife that one door is better or the Astro is worth owning.
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby icebrrg3rd » March 24th 2015, 6:24pm

There's an '03 Express conversion van with left side doors for sale right now just south of Milwaukee for only $6500, AWD & tow package, so if she wants a van w/ left side doors, they're out there, but it'll be larger than an Astro.

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby Roger Ramjet » March 24th 2015, 9:52pm

smokinjoe wrote:I think the bottom line is that you will spend way more on fabricating the door and supporting hardware than buying even a brand new van that comes with one.

And that's IF you can convince someone to do it, which would be difficult.

You would have an easier time convincing your wife that one door is better or the Astro is worth owning.



OR you can cut a hole in the left side and install one of those pet doors , the kids will love crawling through it LOL :auto-mysterymachine:
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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby AstroWill » March 24th 2015, 10:23pm

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby Lumpy » March 25th 2015, 12:13am

Seems easy enough to fab something up.

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby Abe Froman » March 25th 2015, 1:16am

Over the years I have seen a lot of custom doors, just depends how talented you are or how talented the guy you pay is. Here one example of a crazy door conversion

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby Meterpig » March 25th 2015, 1:21am

Here is one all ready to go. Just 45K.

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby coppermtn » March 28th 2015, 6:12pm

I saw that van b4.

I wound up purchasing this 3 years ago. was a demo that never got titled with 5k on the odometer.
Price was right.

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby MWeightman [OP] » April 9th 2015, 4:44pm

Thanks everyone for your input. I got most of my crying out writing the post, so the confirmations I was fearing for didn't hurt so bad; I had already began to realize it wasn't coming back, and this allowed me to pull the chord on of my ideal dream van. I've been looking to replace my car with something more economical for work, but I'm now considering the second van after all; it'll mean terrible millage getting to work, but I'm slowly convincing myself that it'll be worth it.
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Postby AstroWill » April 9th 2015, 10:02pm

Until gas goes back up to $4 a gallon ;)

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Re: Adding a 4th door (Driver's-side rear door)

Postby kennyj » April 9th 2015, 11:04pm

Here's my van with dual sliding doors and Lambo-style front doors! :banana:

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Postby SilverBullet1997 » April 9th 2015, 11:14pm

kennyj wrote:Here's my van with dual sliding doors and Lambo-style front doors! :banana:

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