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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby SportsBoy » July 18th 2020, 2:46am

jimi_lee wrote: Pigtail the + into an accessory + wire like the thick orange wire in the tow-package bundle. [i]Wiring the + to an accessory cable allows you to use the camera when you are not going in reverse.
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Hey Jimi - where did you get the info about the orange wire in the tow package being a switched power source? Mine is always hot... found that out here - https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=143110
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby sixsix » July 18th 2020, 10:35pm

I read back over it also... I did not see where he mentions, "switched power source".
Maybe he uses a switch to turn it off individually.
You are right - Orange is "hot always", have not heard otherwise.
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby SportsBoy » July 19th 2020, 12:37am

My understanding was that accessory power means that it comes on when the key is turned to the accessory position, meaning it is switched.

Or maybe I'm wrong about that - I know I have a lot more learning to do on electrical....
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby jimi_lee [OP] » July 20th 2020, 4:51pm

SportsBoy wrote:
jimi_lee wrote: Pigtail the + into an accessory + wire like the thick orange wire in the tow-package bundle. [i]Wiring the + to an accessory cable allows you to use the camera when you are not going in reverse.
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Hey Jimi - where did you get the info about the orange wire in the tow package being a switched power source? Mine is always hot... found that out here - https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=143110


Hey SportsBoy,
I see from your thread that there has already been a lot of discussion.

Its been over a year since I installed that and I honestly don't remember where I got that information from. Here is a link (https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=84601) to another AS post with a diagram of the tow wiring diagram with the orange (brown) wire labelled "Aux". I assumed that would mean that the voltage was tied to the engine being on.

I will test this later today and edit the post or add a new post.
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby SportsBoy » July 22nd 2020, 4:14am

jimi_lee wrote:
SportsBoy wrote:
jimi_lee wrote: Pigtail the + into an accessory + wire like the thick orange wire in the tow-package bundle. [i]Wiring the + to an accessory cable allows you to use the camera when you are not going in reverse.
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Hey Jimi - where did you get the info about the orange wire in the tow package being a switched power source? Mine is always hot... found that out here - https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=143110


Hey SportsBoy,
I see from your thread that there has already been a lot of discussion.

Its been over a year since I installed that and I honestly don't remember where I got that information from. Here is a link (https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=84601) to another AS post with a diagram of the tow wiring diagram with the orange (brown) wire labelled "Aux". I assumed that would mean that the voltage was tied to the engine being on.

I will test this later today and edit the post or add a new post.

I saw that exact same thread when I was trying to figure out whether the orange in the tow harness was switched or not - it made me think I was all set until I actually tested it with a multimeter and found it was always hot.
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby jimi_lee [OP] » October 1st 2020, 9:33pm

jimi_lee wrote: Pigtail the + into an accessory + wire like the thick orange wire in the tow-package bundle. [i]Wiring the + to an accessory cable allows you to use the camera when you are not going in reverse.
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SportsBoy wrote:Hey Jimi - where did you get the info about the orange wire in the tow package being a switched power source? Mine is always hot... found that out here - https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=143110

jimi_lee wrote:Hey SportsBoy,
I see from your thread that there has already been a lot of discussion.

Its been over a year since I installed that and I honestly don't remember where I got that information from. Here is a link (https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=84601) to another AS post with a diagram of the tow wiring diagram with the orange (brown) wire labelled "Aux". I assumed that would mean that the voltage was tied to the engine being on.

I will test this later today and edit the post or add a new post.

SportsBoy wrote:I saw that exact same thread when I was trying to figure out whether the orange in the tow harness was switched or not - it made me think I was all set until I actually tested it with a multimeter and found it was always hot.


"Today" was a bit optimistic.

I did go back and test it. It is 100% hot 100% of the time confirming what you found and explaining why my battery is dead if I don't drive it at least 1 time every 2 weeks.

Just thought I would post that here for future reference (although it would be faster to just go outside with a multimeter than to find this post).
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby SportsBoy » October 2nd 2020, 3:28am

Haha, well if you want to fix it, I used the switched red wire in the Radio harness.
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby jimi_lee [OP] » October 3rd 2020, 3:08pm

SportsBoy wrote:Haha, well if you want to fix it, I used the switched red wire in the Radio harness.


I ended up using these "add-a-fuse"
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B085MGRN ... asin_title

That way, the camera can be on its own separate fuse. I also improved the wiring to the solenoids that charge my spare battery.
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby jimi_lee [OP] » November 29th 2020, 1:20am

2 things:

Second: I get a clunk when driving over bumps that sounds like one or more bushings are worn. A friend also noticed. The sound is louder coming from the front passenger side. It is noticeable even when driving over bumps as small as frost heaves across a relatively new road. It is not super loud though.

In addition to what was replaced during the lift (subframe bushings), I've also replaced the sway bar bushings and end-links, idler arms, engine mounts, and front shocks. While doing the alignment, I asked the mechanic to take a look for tired bushings and he demonstrated that the lower bushing on the shock seemed quite soft when he pushed/bounced on the car. I now think they were just not torqued to spec, regardless they are replaced.

In my driveway, I can't replicate the clunk by rocking the vehicle. Nothing feels loose when I grab or lever on it (ball joints, tie rods, pitman, sway bar, etc). I laid under the van to feel the control arms and steering mechanism as my wife turned the wheels side-to-side and everything felt good. And when jacked, there is no play if I pry on the wheels side-to-side or up-and-down.

I can't figure it out. Maybe you can help?

I've taken a bunch of video of different bushings while rocking the car. Do these bushings look good to you?

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First (I wanted the help before the photo share and tell): Performed the Wimpie 2+1 lift. I didn't intend to do the +1 part, but the driver side sat about 1" higher than the passenger side. When I checked the torsion bars, the driver's side adjustment bolt was about 1" farther than the passenger. So I leveled it out and then got an alignment. Also, the S10 springs raised the back end so high it looked ridiculous.

I didn't get a lot of photos, but then half the people on this board have done this mod.

Front went smoothly, but slow. Trimming the fan shroud with the cut-off and grinding disks for the angle grinder.
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I relocated the front bumper using some 1/4" thick x 1' wide steel bar stock. Similarly, made extended brackets for the rear brake lines. I also threw on a Hellwig rear sway bar.

All-in-all. This gave me 3" of lift in the front and about 4.5" in the rear.

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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby MechBob » November 29th 2020, 2:09am

This will be a test(about your noise), what do the front of the rear leaf springs bolt into? (only because I have run into this type of noise before)
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Re: Sangria - 2005 Safari camper conversion

Postby jimi_lee [OP] » November 29th 2020, 2:37am

MechBob wrote:This will be a test(about your noise), what do the front of the rear leaf springs bolt into? (only because I have run into this type of noise before)


The hanger???
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