boring safety subject

boring safety subject

Postby nonhog [OP] » December 31st 2016, 12:34am

On a really old thread, the front end crash discussion, only bentwanderer mentioned the seat moving violently forward.

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Postby bentwanderer » December 8th 2011, 8:55pm

Man after watching that video of the crash test about 10 times, i am concerned about how that seat just snapped off the floor like it wasn't even screwed down. Gonna hafta take a look at mine see if i can't beef that up a bit...... :swerve:"


this thread.... viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10555&hilit=crash+test&start=20

I am NOT interested in reliving the question "Are these vans safe?" I am interested in the seat bracket and possibly modifying it. From watching the video I think the crumple area is o.k. but either the floor or the seat is not performing well.

Wish I could see the interior(seat brackets) after that crash.
I'm not afraid of my van just always on the lookout to improve things.

Anyone besides me and "bentwanderer" discuss this? Sorry if I missed it.
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby chevymaher » December 31st 2016, 1:02am

Mine has put 2 cars on flatbeds. Tore the trans apart and tore the wheel completely off of a Hyundai. My seat is just fine. Drove it home. Rear seatbelt doesn't catch like it used to tho. Wonder if that is related? I think the secret is don't hit a brick wall with the vans secret foldy place.

Just remember it don't really matter how the crash rating system rates them. The interior can be perfect. When you a mere human comes to a dead stop that fast your still dead no matter how the car looks.
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby a1959birdman » December 31st 2016, 1:11am

I didn't see the video, but my interest is in the fact I'm a tall guy and was thinking of relocating the drivers seat mounting a few inches rearward in order to give myself more leg room. My 95 Astro is a bit cramped for my legs and the pedal area is smaller than I'm used to. I've done seat mounts on my El Camino and made sure the seats were reinforced under the floor where I mounted them and haven't had any issues to date. I would say as long as the mounting bolts are secure and the floor doesn't show any cancerous rust, factory mounts should be fine. I haven't looked but I know there are aftermarket seat mount braces for many older Chevy cars one could buy, has anyone seen anything like that for Astros?
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby Coaster » December 31st 2016, 1:11am

yeah i got hit really hard in my 69 pickup a while back, i blacked out. other car was GONE, i had a dented fender. turns out i also had a life changing concussion.

i still have the truck. i'm still different now.
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby chevymaher » December 31st 2016, 1:21am

Coaster wrote:yeah i got hit really hard in my 69 pickup a while back, i blacked out. other car was GONE, i had a dented fender. turns out i also had a life changing concussion.

i still have the truck. i'm still different now.

Yep me to. I got seat belt damage. Like getting hit in the chest with a bat.
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby a1959birdman » December 31st 2016, 1:37am

chevymaher wrote:
Coaster wrote:yeah i got hit really hard in my 69 pickup a while back, i blacked out. other car was GONE, i had a dented fender. turns out i also had a life changing concussion.

i still have the truck. i'm still different now.

Yep me to. I got seat belt damage. Like getting hit in the chest with a bat.


Maybe I'm just a lucky guy, I haven't had a life changing crash just a few bumper thumpers, usually someone else's fault.
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby dramey » December 31st 2016, 1:48am

I had some friends that went up to northern Michigan to party in the 70's. They were all drunk and the driver went to sleep at the wheel and hit a bridge abutment going about 80mph on the way home. No one had their seat belt on except one person in the back. The three that didn't have their seat belt on didn't have much more than a few scratches and bruises. The one that had the seat belt on, the crash ripped his aorta from the impact and he died instantly.
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby chevymaher » December 31st 2016, 3:54am

dramey wrote:I had some friends that went up to northern Michigan to party in the 70's. They were all drunk and the driver went to sleep at the wheel and hit a bridge abutment going about 80mph on the way home. No one had their seat belt on except one person in the back. The three that didn't have their seat belt on didn't have much more than a few scratches and bruises. The one that had the seat belt on, the crash ripped his aorta from the impact and he died instantly.

I hear you. I been in a bunch of crashes as a passenger before seat belt laws. I been hit 3X with them on. I never got hurt unless I got a belt on. Mom is a nurse and I hear the tales. But I can only go by what I have experienced. Keeping you from being ejected and run over is the only positive point I can see about them. Face in the windshield maybe. But I had a seat belt on and had my face shoved through the windshield in calif. Separated my shoulder. Cop was at fault there. Tried to leave the scene but his wheel fell off.
The other thing is the people getting killed with air bags. Hit a curb air bag goes off dead broken neck.
I know it is wishful thinking but not crashing is the only thing to do. Safety devices are questionable at best.
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby Astrofarian » December 31st 2016, 3:58am

dramey wrote:I had some friends that went up to northern Michigan to party in the 70's. They were all drunk and the driver went to sleep at the wheel and hit a bridge abutment going about 80mph on the way home. No one had their seat belt on except one person in the back. The three that didn't have their seat belt on didn't have much more than a few scratches and bruises. The one that had the seat belt on, the crash ripped his aorta from the impact and he died instantly.

Yeah, the human body can only stand so much force. But I'll still take my chances on wearing the harness; WAY safer if you stay INSIDE the vehicle in a crash. At least until that Jet-Pack/Ejector Seat/ Sunroof kit gets here from J.C. Whitney!
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Re: boring safety subject

Postby Lumpy » January 1st 2017, 6:07pm

I know a guy that drives an open top Jeep CJ.

He doesn't want to be injured by the seat belts if he gets into a crash so he drives with one hand on the steering wheel and one hand on his seat belt buckle. "If I'm about to crash, I'm releasing that sucker so I'll be thrown clear".


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Re: boring safety subject

Postby AstroWill » January 1st 2017, 7:03pm

Astrofarian wrote:Yeah, the human body can only stand so much force. But I'll still take my chances on wearing the harness; WAY safer if you stay INSIDE the vehicle in a crash.


I agree with that, better off wearing it than not, of course there are always going to be those few oddball incidents.

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