Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Postby ri$e*above [OP] » July 10th 2020, 2:29am

I got my 2002 Safari AWD recently, and it had already been lifted by the previous owner. He said it has the 7 inch Journey lift kit, but he recently dropped it to a 5 inch lift and had an alignment done.

It looks like it has 3 inch body lift pucks. Would the additional 2 inches of lift to get it to the 5 inch lift of been done with the torsion bars? What about when it was at a 7 inch lift...would the extra 4 inches of been done with the torsion bars?? It also has Rancho RS5000X Shocks.

The leaf spring hangers are set in the holes as in the pictures below, and it also looks like there's an additional small add a leaf spring kit (4 leaf springs in total) on the leaf springs. Would the drop from 7 inch to 5 inch just of been a case of moving those holes on the rear leaf spring hangers? Should I check the torsion bars? At what point should it have a ball joint flip? Can't tell if the front sway bar is OEM or aftermarket, but looks like new bushings and end links.

What should I be looking for in terms of things that could fail with the lift? I remember reading that the lines and hoses can stretch, which ones in particular? I read 97cargocrawlers informative post on the steering and cooling lines. Are they any other hoses, lines or wires to watch out for? I'm going to be doing the oil cooler delete, so the oil coolant lines wont be an issue.

Sorry for all the questions. This is my first Astro/Safari, so I'm trying to get a feel of what's been done and what I should watch out for.

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Re: Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Postby Rockridge » July 10th 2020, 3:21am

have the torsion bars been cranked up or re-keyed?
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Re: Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Postby ri$e*above [OP] » July 10th 2020, 3:24am

Rockridge wrote:have the torsion bars been cranked up or re-keyed?

Not sure. How would I be able to tell which was done?
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Re: Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Postby SportsBoy » July 10th 2020, 8:04pm

Everyone has the sway bar

Front lift comes from spacers and torsion bar crankng or re-keying, rear looks like it comes from adjusting the holes on the leaf spring shackles for you. Just use the lower hole and you'd be a 7 inches probably.
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Re: Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Postby ri$e*above [OP] » July 10th 2020, 8:15pm

SportsBoy wrote:Everyone has the sway bar

Front lift comes from spacers and torsion bar crankng or re-keying, rear looks like it comes from adjusting the holes on the leaf spring shackles for you. Just use the lower hole and you'd be a 7 inches probably.


What is the best option torsion bar cranking or re-keying? Is it easy to spot which i have?
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Re: Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Postby Mmusicman » July 11th 2020, 6:31pm

Re-indexed keys (for front torsion bar lift) are typically less desirable... as they put the cv-axle geometry at hard angles that tend to wipe out cv-joints, and can cause a harsher ride, as well as possible alignment issues. If they lowered it back down a little, they may have removed (or lowered) the aftermarket keys to something more moderate.

Body pucks lift the body off the sub-frame, without altering the suspension at all.
There are 6 mount points (3 on each side)
Two or three inches of body lift is well within reason and moderation.
Sometimes minor tweaking is needed for things to reach.. but not always.
Mine has a lot of lift, and my cooler lines were simply bent and adjusted to accommodate.
There is no issue... no stress. Steering shaft coupler is typically longer to accommodate.
Front bumper is relocated to fill gap caused by body lift.

The only way (I know of) to know if you have aftermarket torsion-bar keys would be to actually measure the suspension (and compare it to stock)

Obviously the rear is easy to understand... simply move up or down holes in hangers to reach desired total height.
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Re: Looking For Help With My Preinstalled Lift

Postby ri$e*above [OP] » July 11th 2020, 7:12pm

Mmusicman wrote:Re-indexed keys (for front torsion bar lift) are typically less desirable... as they put the cv-axle geometry at hard angles that tend to wipe out cv-joints, and can cause a harsher ride, as well as possible alignment issues. If they lowered it back down a little, they may have removed (or lowered) the aftermarket keys to something more moderate.

Body pucks lift the body off the sub-frame, without altering the suspension at all.
There are 6 mount points (3 on each side)
Two or three inches of body lift is well within reason and moderation.
Sometimes minor tweaking is needed for things to reach.. but not always.
Mine has a lot of lift, and my cooler lines were simply bent and adjusted to accommodate.
There is no issue... no stress. Steering shaft coupler is typically longer to accommodate.
Front bumper is relocated to fill gap caused by body lift.

The only way (I know of) to know if you have aftermarket torsion-bar keys would be to actually measure the suspension (and compare it to stock)

Obviously the rear is easy to understand... simply move up or down holes in hangers to reach desired total height.


Thanks :thumbup:

I plan to keep it at the 5 inch lift atm. Ideally, would it be best keeping the 3 inch body pucks, and have the torsion bars cranked for the extra 2 inch needed and removing the re-indexed keys if it has them?

I've been reading that a ball joint flip is the way to go for the lift. Do these look to have been flipped?...
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