My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 11th 2011, 9:40pm

...is almost done! :bouncy:

At first, I wasn't really that interested in lifting my 2000 Safari when I bought it but I quickly decided after a month or so of owning it that it wasn't high enough. I can't ever leave anything alone! :) My goal became a lift that still rode like factory. Well I'm very happy because it rides even better than factory! Even the wife notices.

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- Moog 9012 springs (made for 70's Lincoln). Gave a 2" lift and good ride.
- 1" body spacers from Summit Racing and longer 12.9 grade bolts

4" rear
- 4 leaf HD S10 spings (also improved ride)

For the front, I went through a long list of coils (here) until I found a coil that was 2" longer with a slightly lower spring rate which gave me a smoother but still firm ride. I wanted to add to it to make a 3" lift so I ordered 1" body spacers and new bolts which only totaled $30! Why not 2" spacers? Several reasons. Cuts down on how much the engine moves away from the body, minimizes fan shroud trimming, don't want the frame to show, and I want a 1" rake in the rear.

For the rear, S10 springs are a popular way to lift it. I ordered new HD 4 leaf S10 springs and it shot the rear end way up and noticeably improved the ride. I love them!

The only thing left to do is install the body spacers, which come tomorrow, to level it out. In the mean time, I'm preparing for them by pulling off the bumper, trimming the fan shroud, drilling 1" higher on the e-brake bracket, drilling the bumper brackets to line the bumper back up properly. All that good stuff.

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More pictures with a real camera will come after it's all put back together, shined up, and displayed in a parking lot!
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 12th 2011, 6:36pm

Look what came in today :mrgreen:

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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Jasen » October 12th 2011, 9:54pm

Now all you need is a hockey stick.

I guess we know what your going to be doing this weekend :thumbup:
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 13th 2011, 12:17am

Actually I just got done. :D And yes, my yard is a mess. :oops:

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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby AstroCan » October 13th 2011, 1:01am

How did you get that front bumper back in place with the body spacers?
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Jasen » October 13th 2011, 1:04am

Well who cars about the yard, the van looks great :thumbup:

Well except for those tiny little tires, what are those 135x85x13 :mrgreen:
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 13th 2011, 1:37am

AstroCan wrote:How did you get that front bumper back in place with the body spacers?


I drilled a hole in the bumper brackets between the bottom and top hole and got some ny-lock nuts to put at the end of the bolt. Only bad thing now is that both brackets are only held in by one bolt because I'd have to drill the frame to use the bottom hole and the top hole is in empty space now. I cranked down on the one bolt pretty tight to make sure they couldn't pivot but I'm gonna take it to my dad to put a couple of small spot welds to make sure it never moves. I don't plan to ever remove the body lift and if the brackets got messed up from a wreck, I could just grind the welds off.

If you do a 2" body lift, I've read that you can just line the bottom hole in the bracket with the top hole in the frame but you still have the one bolt holding in it issue.

Jasen wrote:Well except for those tiny little tires, what are those 135x85x13 :mrgreen:


:lol: Walmart factory size 215/75/15. It'll get some 235/75/15s all-terrains one of these days. I'm sure they'd make just as much difference in how the van looks as the lift did. :D
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Lumpy » October 13th 2011, 2:33am

Your Clutter Catcher box is cluttering up the yard.

... :rofl: ... :rofl: ... :rofl:


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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby slim724 » October 13th 2011, 4:25am

throw up a profile shot! Interested in what yr lincoln springs you used, and what yr HD S-10 leaf pack you used, or part #'s, also what shocks are you using?
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 13th 2011, 7:32pm

slim724 wrote:throw up a profile shot! Interested in what yr lincoln springs you used, and what yr HD S-10 leaf pack you used, or part #'s, also what shocks are you using?


I think it was a mid 70's Continental. I'm not sure what year S10s but they seem to only come up under 1st gen S10s and Blazers. Parts numbers are Moog 9012s for the coil springs and leaf springs are part number 22-687HD. I'm still on stock shocks for now. The rear ones are surprisingly long. I'll get some pics soon. :mrgreen:
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby slim724 » October 13th 2011, 9:56pm

Thanks for the reply, definitely interested in doing your setup, but with 2in pucks since I already have OLV 2in BL. I'm assuming I can just use the first hole in the OLV shackles for a total of 5in rear and 4in in front. I have rubbing issues when fully loaded with 235/75/15 and only 2in lift. I also like a little rake, all of my lifted vehicles have at least 1 to 2in rake
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 13th 2011, 11:21pm

slim724 wrote:Thanks for the reply, definitely interested in doing your setup, but with 2in pucks since I already have OLV 2in BL. I'm assuming I can just use the first hole in the OLV shackles for a total of 5in rear and 4in in front. I have rubbing issues when fully loaded with 235/75/15 and only 2in lift. I also like a little rake, all of my lifted vehicles have at least 1 to 2in rake


If you want smooth, 9012 coil springs are definitely the way to go. If you want it stiffer, get the part number FCS648V from autozone (springs for 1500 truck with V6 motor). Either one will give you lift. The heavy duty S10 leaf springs ran me just over $300 for the pair but the price was worth it for the big lift and smoother ride (and the fact that they fit in the stock spring clamp hardware once you remove the overload!). I just came back from somewhere and took the interstate. I could drive for hours in it :D
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby tswan1955 » October 14th 2011, 11:08am

Did you have fiberglass springs or steel? :ty:
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 14th 2011, 6:51pm

tswan1955 wrote:Did you have fiberglass springs or steel? :ty:


2nd generation vans (95-05) have steel. Mine's a 2000
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 14th 2011, 8:51pm

I got some pics today to show off the lift. What do you guys think? Besides that it needs bigger tires :mrgreen:

Shows body lift spacer and modified bumper bracket
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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Lumpy » October 14th 2011, 9:47pm

Even with stock tires, these boxes look better lifted.

More boltie on that bumpie?


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Re: My 2WD 3"-F 4"-R lift....

Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 14th 2011, 10:07pm

Lumpy wrote:Even with stock tires, these boxes look better lifted.

More boltie on that bumpie?


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Are you referring to my one bolt holding on the bumper brackets? Yea, I'm gonna take care of that. The other side of that bolt has a ny-lock nut with loctite cranked down really tight. Since I don't ever plan to remove the body lift, I'm gonna have my dad get up in there with his stick welder and put a couple spot welds from the brackets to frame so it won't ever have a chance to pivot. If they get damaged from a wreck, I can just grind the spot welds off. I wasn't gonna pay 4 times what the spacers and bolts costed just for custom brackets :naughty:

Oh yea. I forgot to mention that I didn't even have to modify the e-brake bracket. Just trim the fan shroud and drill the bumper brackets so the body lift went real easy :D
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Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 14th 2011, 11:29pm

He enjoys the van too! :lol:

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Postby Shad0wXCalibur [OP] » October 29th 2011, 7:41pm

Something else Lumpy reminded me to point out is that I do not have a driveshaft vibration with my lift, even up to 80 MPH :D . Are my u-joints gonna wear our faster? No idea. Most likely not by a lot. Just thought I'd point that out with my particular lift and van for anyone looking to build their own lift.

One of these days, I'm gonna get a front end alignment to finish off the whole thing. That's always a must when changing coils.
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Postby vangogo » October 29th 2011, 8:02pm

That looks nice! New springs in the rear seems like the way to go.
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