FNG and 2" lift

FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » March 26th 2015, 11:27pm

Hi all. Long time lurker with a 98 AWD astro that finally decided to get his act together and become a FNG. Just want to say this site has been an amazing source of information and I am very thankful to the many members and their informative posts. I use my van for fishing, camping, hunting and eventually towing. Felt like a 2" lift would be a good place for me to start. For the rear I was hoping to get 2" of lift with the add a leaf but I have read mixed results so I added in shackles just encase, which I believe are the right ones. After the lift is finished I'm hoping with some trimming I will be able to fit some 30x9.5r15 tires. Also to spread out expenses I'm also planning on updating the shocks to Bilsteins later on. I've put together a part list from reading and researching this site. Would love any advice or feed back on it.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Lumpy » March 26th 2015, 11:48pm

nico541 wrote:
... and become a FNG...



Oh! An FNG!... :confused:

eBrake relocation bracket. Remove your current bracket and redrill higher, or remove the blank bracket in the same place passenger side and drill that one.


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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Mr_Bowtie » March 26th 2015, 11:49pm

On my old '96 I didn't buy bumper brackets, just mounted my bumper up one bolt hole. So, bumper was held on with 2 less bolts but seemed just fine.

I tried add a leafs from Pro Comp and they sucked. If I did it over I would just get/ build a good set of leafs! Shackles are okay, but with a good set of leafs you don't need them.

I got 31" tires to fit with 2" lift and lots of trimming.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby AstroWill » March 26th 2015, 11:56pm

nico541 wrote:Bumper relocation kit


Available from any Home Depot or other hardware store for about $3-4

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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » March 27th 2015, 1:51am

Lumpy wrote:
nico541 wrote:
... and become a FNG...



Oh! An FNG!... :confused:

eBrake relocation bracket. Remove your current bracket and redrill higher, or remove the blank bracket in the same place passenger side and drill that one.


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Ooo forgot about the ebrake bracket, thanks! lol FNG stands for F***ing New Guy
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » March 27th 2015, 1:56am

Mr_Bowtie wrote:On my old '96 I didn't buy bumper brackets, just mounted my bumper up one bolt hole. So, bumper was held on with 2 less bolts but seemed just fine.

I tried add a leafs from Pro Comp and they sucked. If I did it over I would just get/ build a good set of leafs! Shackles are okay, but with a good set of leafs you don't need them.

I got 31" tires to fit with 2" lift and lots of trimming.


Are those the s10 leafs? 31s? nice! I like that bumper idea I think I might do it till I mount a brush guard on there and then do the kit or find a way to fabricate one.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Corsemoto » March 27th 2015, 2:30am

FWIW, when I replaced subframe bushings with Prothane 7-102BL urethane bushings, I measured the bolts provided by OLV for the 2" front spacer lift and they were 130mm length.

Stock are 96mm so adding 2" to that would be approximately 150mm so you might find 160mm are too long for the 2" spacers.

Also, these Zone Offroad 2" spacers would save you some coin at $3 each:

http://www.amazon.com/Zone-Offroad-Bulk-Tall-Block/dp/B0021IAOYQ/ref=pd_bxgy_auto_text_z
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » March 27th 2015, 6:54am

Corsemoto wrote:FWIW, when I replaced subframe bushings with Prothane 7-102BL urethane bushings, I measured the bolts provided by OLV for the 2" front spacer lift and they were 130mm length.

Stock are 96mm so adding 2" to that would be approximately 150mm so you might find 160mm are too long for the 2" spacers.

Also, these Zone Offroad 2" spacers would save you some coin at $3 each:

http://www.amazon.com/Zone-Offroad-Bulk-Tall-Block/dp/B0021IAOYQ/ref=pd_bxgy_auto_text_z


Thanks for the money saver link, I'll order those pucks instead. To tell you the truth I had just found those bolts listed in another thread. I'll try to find ones that are the correct length.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » March 27th 2015, 7:05am

Mr_Bowtie wrote: I got 31" tires to fit with 2" lift and lots of trimming.

I would like to eventually change the gear ratio especially when I start Towing stuff but that's down the road. Did you notice a big drop in power when you switched to 31's?
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby castlerox » March 27th 2015, 3:54pm

I am pretty happy with the Overland Kit. Ive seen others but since I joined a few years back that is what everyone was using.

It is pretty much plug and play assuming you have no other issues with your van.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » March 27th 2015, 4:34pm

castlerox wrote:I am pretty happy with the Overland Kit. Ive seen others but since I joined a few years back that is what everyone was using.

It is pretty much plug and play assuming you have no other issues with your van.


I read a lot of posts saying now they drop ship the majority of the parts so I figured I could cut out the middle man and save some money.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Meterpig » March 28th 2015, 4:36am

nico541 wrote:
castlerox wrote:I am pretty happy with the Overland Kit. Ive seen others but since I joined a few years back that is what everyone was using.

It is pretty much plug and play assuming you have no other issues with your van.


I read a lot of posts saying now they drop ship the majority of the parts so I figured I could cut out the middle man and save some money.


You can...before high dollar kits were to be had, people were modding astro's with parts from other kits and fabbing.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Lumpy » March 28th 2015, 4:42am

My first lift was an Overland kit. They drop shipped the shackles to me from airbagit which is here in Phoenix where I am.


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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby castlerox » March 28th 2015, 6:36am

I did do the research as well… and you can save a few bucks here and there.

I paid the extra to have everything conveniently arrive in one package… then 1, 2, 3 go! plus I wanted those bumper brackets to satiate my OCD.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Mr_Bowtie » March 28th 2015, 1:15pm

nico541 wrote:
Mr_Bowtie wrote: I got 31" tires to fit with 2" lift and lots of trimming.

I would like to eventually change the gear ratio especially when I start Towing stuff but that's down the road. Did you notice a big drop in power when you switched to 31's?

I thought the Van drove great yet, but I did tons of trimming up front on the Van.
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I got my lift pucks from zone offroad and bolts from local Fastenal.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Mr_Bowtie » March 28th 2015, 1:24pm

Here I quoted myself out an old topic I had going on.....but there are some good links in there for some budget lift ideas. :chevy:

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Dirk wrote:Yeah and at $3 a piece they're very cheap.
Good find Mr_Bowtie!


Thanks, but all the info is on here....I just simply took advantage of it. :clap:

A couple threads that have great info in them to get ideas for lifting your Van on a budget:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4967&hilit=budget+lift

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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » March 28th 2015, 6:17pm

Mr_Bowtie wrote:Here I quoted myself out an old topic I had going on.....but there are some good links in there for some budget lift ideas. :chevy:

Mr_Bowtie wrote:
Dirk wrote:Yeah and at $3 a piece they're very cheap.
Good find Mr_Bowtie!


Thanks, but all the info is on here....I just simply took advantage of it. :clap:

A couple threads that have great info in them to get ideas for lifting your Van on a budget:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4967&hilit=budget+lift

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9136

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=7256

Nick :chevy:


Wowzas there is a lot of good info in those threads. Thanks bud!
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby Mr_Bowtie » March 28th 2015, 7:42pm

You bet! :rockon:
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » April 10th 2015, 6:05pm

Been waiting for my parts to arrive for my lift and thought I could get started on some other stuff while I was waiting. Didn't want to by new rims but my current ones are kinda fugly
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So I decided to rattle can them and put some chrome lugs on to spruce em up a little bit. This is my first time attempting to paint anything but I'm pretty happy with it.
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Re: FNG and 2" lift

Postby nico541 [OP] » April 12th 2015, 6:42pm

Alright so I have all 6 pucks in on the front. Luckily I had some wood left over from building the fence for my back yard. Probably not the best way to do it lol but it worked.
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