Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby Bengt Weil [OP] » October 3rd 2019, 5:23pm

A quick heads-up on the BellTech rear sway bar. If it is part number 5528, I believe it mounts below the axle, which is not ideal for lifted suspension or off-roading. Most other manufacturers (Suspension Techniques, Hellwig, Addco, etc.) sway bars mount on top of the axle.

Rule of thumb (ask me how I know this...) -
STOCK suspension; any manufacturer's rear bar works well.
LIFTED suspension; any manufacturer other than BellTech
LOWERED suspension; only BellTech

If you find that the sway bar you ordered mounts below the rear axle and you'd prefer one that mounts above the axle, let me know - I have a lowered van and I am looking for a below axle mount BellTech bar in trade for a Suspension Techniques above axle mount...
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Re: Where can you buy Bilsteins?

Postby ADDvanced » October 3rd 2019, 5:35pm

Dammit. It was the only one that would ship out quickly. I'd be down to trade, but let me get it to my place first and just mock it up. Wish I had known this earlier.
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Re: Where can you buy Bilsteins?

Postby Bengt Weil [OP] » October 3rd 2019, 6:52pm

Here's the link to the BellTech installation instructions.

https://www.belltech.com/extras/docs/BBGC/5528.pdf

Let me know if you want to see the installation instructions for the Suspension Techniques bar - I looked for a link online but could not find it. I can email you a pdf copy if you'd like...

Both of these bars use the same mounting method/hardware and dimensions for the frame attachment - looks like the only difference is BellTech mounts below the axle and goes behind the pumpkin and the Suspension Techniques mounts above the axle and goes over the top of the pumpkin nose, nothing directly behind the pumpkin (no interference with diff cover removal).
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Re: Where can you buy Bilsteins?

Postby AstroWill » October 3rd 2019, 6:57pm

Yea, post the ST bar instructions, you can just attach them to your post. Can probably mount the Beltech on top of the axle as well, maybe using different sized end link.

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Re: Where can you buy Bilsteins?

Postby Bengt Weil [OP] » October 4th 2019, 7:10am

Here are the Suspension Techniques rear sway bar instructions sheets (4 pages)...
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Re: Where can you buy Bilsteins?

Postby AstroWill » October 5th 2019, 1:54am

Any reason why the BellTech couldn't be mounted to the top of the axle? I haven't received mine yet but simply looking at the instructions it appears that you should be able to mount it either way.

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Re: Where can you buy Bilsteins?

Postby Bengt Weil [OP] » October 5th 2019, 2:11am

Seems logical, but you may want to call the folks at BellTech and ask them. A quick phone call is a lot easier than attempting to mount it above the axle and checking for proper clearances throughout the expected travel range.
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Re: Where can you buy Bilsteins?

Postby AstroWill » October 5th 2019, 2:22am

Yea, I don't believe their fitment guide anyway. Says it is only for RWD and up through 2002.

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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby sfeaver » October 5th 2019, 3:14am

The stock one mounts below the rear axle too, FYI...
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby paulo57509 » October 5th 2019, 9:10am

From the photo, the only concerns with mounting the BellTech bar on top of the axle might be clearance for the driver's side shock, exhaust pipe (it looks like it would clear both) and the spare tire (questionable).

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I didn't use the supplied "muffler" clamps or the long end link bolts. The clamps were a size too large and the bolts were too long to get any crush on the bushings (you can see this in the photo too).

I don't believe BT's application chart either - this is mounted on an '03 RWD. FWIW, I'm also running BT's 5428 front bar as well (even lubed with the supplied tacky grease, it's creaky as heck).
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby sixsix » October 5th 2019, 9:18pm

paulo57509 wrote:From the photo, the only concerns with ...


My concern is the 'fake' - LOL - pic...
Gosh, Paolo, is that a real untouched, 'back when you bought the van' - 'the day it was built' - Photo.

How did that rust get on the diff....?
Unbelievable - only a few states can boast that type of preservation.



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Well, after all... what would Banacek say ?... “It is only a matter of time before armed citizens, waiting or not for the police, take things into their own hands, fire on the rioters for personal and property prot. & end up hunted like dogs.”

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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby paulo57509 » October 6th 2019, 4:29am

sixsix wrote:
paulo57509 wrote:From the photo, the only concerns with ...


My concern is the 'fake' - LOL - pic...
Gosh, Paolo, is that a real untouched, 'back when you bought the van' - 'the day it was built' - Photo.

How did that rust get on the diff....?
Unbelievable - only a few states can boast that type of preservation.



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I put the bars on in July of 2010 at 116,991 miles. CA sucks in every category except for the weather.

The rusty diff cover is a mystery. I'm thinking GM's supplier for these covers is in China. I'm sure GM supplied the paint.
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby Leeann_93 » October 6th 2019, 4:10pm

Yep, and that's why I replace the cover when I service the diff. Dorman cover doesn't cost much and it lasts as least as long as the GM - and I don't have to sand, prime, paint....
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby Bengt Weil [OP] » October 9th 2019, 4:53pm

Is the BellTech sway bar 7/8" diameter or is it 3/4" diameter? The Suspension Techniques is 7/8" with "solid" mounts to the frame rails like the BellTech.

Anyone know the sizes of the other bars (Hellwig, Addco)?

Thanks!
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby ADDvanced » October 9th 2019, 5:09pm

There is a post somewhere on this site that I can't seem to locate right now, and I believe Belltech's was the largest. I could be wrong.
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby AstroWill » October 9th 2019, 5:18pm

The rear BT is 7/8", supposed to be delivered Monday.

For $120 delivered it's worth trying for me. I won't be doing the lift right away, so it will be installed first at stock height. I do like the way the Addco uses the existing frame rail holes to mount, VS drilling for the BT. I may end up doing a mount like the Addco, haven't decided yet.

I don't have the others sizes handy, but a simple google search will answer that.

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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby stent » October 9th 2019, 6:05pm

a couple of years ago i did swaybars on a '99 2wd cargo.
belltech front & addco rear.
the pair work nice together.
i did the belltech on the front because of maximum diameter phatness.
i did the addco on the rear because it mounts up & out or the way better than any other brand.

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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby Bengt Weil [OP] » October 11th 2019, 5:17am

Ok, I'll bite...

For $120 delivered it's worth trying for me.


So my question to AstroWill is where is the BellTech rear sway bar available for $120? That is quite a deal! Do share the source with us. I agree that it is worth a try at that price...

Thanks!
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby AstroWill » October 11th 2019, 7:56am

Bengt Weil wrote:
For $120 delivered it's worth trying for me.

So my question to AstroWill is where is the BellTech rear sway bar available for $120? That is quite a deal! Do share the source with us. I agree that it is worth a try at that price..

I bought it on Amazon, https://amzn.to/2VHiZlD
It was one of those 'last 1' deals. It went up in price directly after ordering.
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Re: Rear sway bars, Belltech, Suspension Techniques, etc

Postby WinnieVan » October 11th 2019, 10:35am

That design is better than the Hellwig. The Hellwig bar rubs like crap on my spare tire!!
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