by rem [OP] » May 4th 2010, 7:44am
by ihatemybike » May 4th 2010, 11:51am
by astroturf » May 4th 2010, 1:03pm
by Gary » May 4th 2010, 3:59pm
by Mr_Bowtie » May 4th 2010, 5:21pm
by rem [OP] » May 4th 2010, 7:43pm
by ihatemybike » May 4th 2010, 8:42pm
by bonjoey » May 4th 2010, 8:46pm
by Gary » May 5th 2010, 6:47am
ihatemybike wrote:I believe the lines are dealer only, that's why we repair them.
by astroturf » May 5th 2010, 1:24pm
Gary wrote:Aaron is right about it being a dealer part.I would suggest you find a shop that would convert it to AN fittings with braided steel lines.A good place to look would be a shop that builds lines for like back hoe's for construction equipment.I have one here in Roch,NY and his work in first class at a really good price.That way you fix it once and fix it right.Crimped ends that would never leak again.
by LEVE » May 5th 2010, 2:48pm
What a great question.Good idea. What would the Price Point of that mod be?
by Gary » May 5th 2010, 3:05pm
by LEVE » May 5th 2010, 4:15pm
by astroturf » May 6th 2010, 5:08am
LEVE wrote:I can agree that using Junk Yard parts isn't always the best way to effect a repair. It depends on the condition of the part that you're going to use. The '96 Caravan I resurrected was given to my Daughter and her family to use. I'm not going to skimp on parts, nor am I going to use shoddy parts, new, used, rebuilt, or otherwise.
In the case of these oil lines I can see the general condition of the line as I remove it. I can see if they've been bent or gouged, rubbed or kinked. When I go to the Yard to pull parts I carry a can of spray carb cleaner, a vial of lube and hand cleaner with lots of towels. That way I can remove grease and debris and examine the part. I can clean, lube and then examine the O-rings on the ends of the fittings for cracks, crush patterns and cross threads. All those things let me know if that line is worth installing on my van. Even if the O-rings were bad, I can still get those O-rings replaced at a local rebuilder for a lot less that rebuilding/buying the whole assembly.
I'll give you two examples on the '93 van I'm rebuilding for my use, one critical, one not critical. The van I bought was a salvage van, and there's been lots of shortcuts in the "Little Things" when it was rebuilt and re-titled by the PO.
I was at the Yard yesterday and pulled a power lock switch. I looked at vans that only had the doors intact, and the windows rolled up to prevent the elements from ruining the switch. I carried in a multimeter and checked the condition of the switch from the donor van. The fist one I found was bad in one direction. It would fail 1 out of 12 times as it was switched. I didn't take that switch. The second one I found was exercised and it worked fine for 100 cycles. That's a good switch.
Last month I replaced the oil cooler line on my van I installed a used one. Granted it did not have O-rings, it had compression fittings. But I still sprayed the inside of that line to see what was coming out of it and sprayed down the outside of it to see if it was free of gouges and rub marks. Since it was free, and it had not been over tightened, I figured it would hold pressure quite well. I looked at the donor to make sure it wasn't a hit to the front of the van that would have stressed the line. I examined the hydraulic hose sections to make sure it had not been hitting the front of the running gear or framing as it snaked up to the radiator fitting. All looked good.
Both parts were installed, and I wasn't disappointed. If you're going to install used parts, you'd best know to look for to evaluate their condition and how removal and re-installation will affect the part. As in most things in life it's a matter of knowledge. If you don't have that knowledge, don't use this method.
by Gary » May 6th 2010, 7:51am
LEVE wrote:I can agree that using Junk Yard parts isn't always the best way to effect a repair. It depends on the condition of the part that you're going to use. The '96 Caravan I resurrected was given to my Daughter and her family to use. I'm not going to skimp on parts, nor am I going to use shoddy parts, new, used, rebuilt, or otherwise.
In the case of these oil lines I can see the general condition of the line as I remove it. I can see if they've been bent or gouged, rubbed or kinked. When I go to the Yard to pull parts I carry a can of spray carb cleaner, a vial of lube and hand cleaner with lots of towels. That way I can remove grease and debris and examine the part. I can clean, lube and then examine the O-rings on the ends of the fittings for cracks, crush patterns and cross threads. All those things let me know if that line is worth installing on my van. Even if the O-rings were bad, I can still get those O-rings replaced at a local rebuilder for a lot less that rebuilding/buying the whole assembly.
I'll give you two examples on the '93 van I'm rebuilding for my use, one critical, one not critical. The van I bought was a salvage van, and there's been lots of shortcuts in the "Little Things" when it was rebuilt and re-titled by the PO.
I was at the Yard yesterday and pulled a power lock switch. I looked at vans that only had the doors intact, and the windows rolled up to prevent the elements from ruining the switch. I carried in a multimeter and checked the condition of the switch from the donor van. The fist one I found was bad in one direction. It would fail 1 out of 12 times as it was switched. I didn't take that switch. The second one I found was exercised and it worked fine for 100 cycles. That's a good switch.
Last month I replaced the oil cooler line on my van I installed a used one. Granted it did not have O-rings, it had compression fittings. But I still sprayed the inside of that line to see what was coming out of it and sprayed down the outside of it to see if it was free of gouges and rub marks. Since it was free, and it had not been over tightened, I figured it would hold pressure quite well. I looked at the donor to make sure it wasn't a hit to the front of the van that would have stressed the line. I examined the hydraulic hose sections to make sure it had not been hitting the front of the running gear or framing as it snaked up to the radiator fitting. All looked good.
Both parts were installed, and I wasn't disappointed. If you're going to install used parts, you'd best know to look for to evaluate their condition and how removal and re-installation will affect the part. As in most things in life it's a matter of knowledge. If you don't have that knowledge, don't use this method.
by rem [OP] » May 6th 2010, 10:51pm
by astroturf » May 7th 2010, 1:47am
rem wrote:went to lordco auto parts in whsitler and they had some lines in stock! cost me 50 bucks and yah im gonna change it 2morow! they even sold the top n bottom hoses sepratly. This town has alot of safari/astro vans, so think that why they carried them.
by sfeaver » May 7th 2010, 2:48am
by rem [OP] » May 8th 2010, 7:56pm
by Mr_Bowtie » May 9th 2010, 3:13am
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