Thought I found my leak

Thought I found my leak

Postby xit [OP] » August 5th 2015, 6:14pm

Thought I found my leak at first, wrong. I have really found it now, right above the gas tank, yup. Do you need to drop the tank or is there a work around. Do you replace the entire line or can you splice it somehow. Getting to old for this $h** :shrug:

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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby zzimmer3 » August 5th 2015, 6:29pm

Replace the whole line. I worked around mine without dropping the tank.
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby zzimmer3 » August 5th 2015, 6:42pm

I did mine without dropping the tank, but i'll say it may be better getting everything out of the way and putting it in the right holders, and removing the old line, but I really didn't have the time, the old line is still sitting in place. I wouldn't try and save any of the line, its more of a pain trying to flare and cut under there, just go as far as you can either direction and install all new. good luck.
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby Astro Pop » August 5th 2015, 6:53pm

If it's a brake line that is leaking,don't mess around replace the whole line and check the others. If it corroded through from the inside you need to replace all of them and then very completely flush the system. You might check all wheel cylinders also. If something else blows out while you're driving the end result could be catastrophic and deadly. Something caused the leak and may still be eating away at the other lines. Again don't tempt fate!!! :auto-swerve: posting.php?mode=smilies&f=45&start=50#
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby Lumpy » August 5th 2015, 6:56pm

I haven't done it but it sure seems simpler and less expensive to just replace the whole line. The cost of the tools to do the flare are more than the tubing with nuts already attached. And either way it'll cost a simple brake bleed.

If you do leave your old line in place, I'd suggest crimping and folding over a couple times. If brake fluid weeps out of the old tubing it might end up on a painted surface. It will eat paint, yours or the person's behind you.


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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby ihatemybike » August 5th 2015, 7:26pm

Do it right, drop the tank and replace the whole line. While you're in there check the condition of the fuel lines and if you haven't done it yet install a new ACDelco/Delphi fuel pump.

It sucks to have to drop the tank more than once in a year. :banghead:
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby Lumpy » August 5th 2015, 7:33pm

ihatemybike wrote:Do it right, drop the tank and replace the whole line. While you're in there check the condition of the fuel lines and if you haven't done it yet install a new ACDelco/Delphi fuel pump.



This ^^^ is the most sensible approach. Also replace the vacuum/evap hoses that live up under there. All the stuff that's accessed when the tank is down.

Do that tank drop, fuel pump thing on YOUR terms. When your tank is nearly empty, when it's at home, when the weather is appropriate. Much better that way than on the side of the road outside a crack house in 112 degree weather.

Not that I've ever been in that situation... :whistle:


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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby AstroWill » August 5th 2015, 7:55pm

Those crack houses aren't hard to find near Lumpy :) I can't say that I have ever stopped at a gas station in Arizona without someone coming up to me and asking me for money.

Drop the tank and give yourself room to work, it's really not hard to drop the tank.

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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby xit [OP] » August 5th 2015, 9:33pm

AstroWill wrote:Those crack houses aren't hard to find near Lumpy :) I can't say that I have ever stopped at a gas station in Arizona without someone coming up to me and asking me for money.

Drop the tank and give yourself room to work, it's really not hard to drop the tank.


Sure nuff, I filled it up just yesterday, I may have to think this one over.
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby Leeann_93 » August 5th 2015, 11:47pm

I replaced mine without dropping the tank. We had just enough room to get the old line out, feed the new line through and clip it in place without dropping the tank.

Which was good because my hubby filled up the tank just before he got home, despite knowing he'd blown the line not long after leaving :roll:
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby ihatemybike » August 6th 2015, 12:56pm

Nice thing about replacing a pump before it doesn't work at all (some just go weak and won't start the vehicle) is that you can disconnect the flex fuel lines by the drive shaft and use the pump to empty the tank into a container.
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby xit [OP] » August 6th 2015, 6:34pm

What's the best approach? Take the old line off & go to an auto supply have them make one up or what? :shrug:
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby Lumpy » August 6th 2015, 7:40pm

NAPA sells that alloy line that's hand bendable, connectors and flares already in place, in various lengths. You could remove the old and take it in. Or simply measure the old.


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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby xit [OP] » August 6th 2015, 9:24pm

Thanks Lumpy. I will remove the old line and take it with me but the 100 degree temp. with 80 percent humidity, it may take me a while.
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby maximus7001 » August 17th 2015, 4:54pm

So the line by my tank blew. Might as well change all the lines. There appears to be 2 different sizes. Already have a bunch of 3/16" which appears to be the size of lines to the wheel cylinders. Is the main line by the tank a 1/4" line?
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby Leeann_93 » August 18th 2015, 2:55am

Yep, ¼" and 3/16".
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby redfury » August 18th 2015, 6:01am

Replaced mine with the hand bendable stuff...spliced in under the drivers seat. Brakes are great. But, replace all the brake fluid while you are at it, I bet it is very dark brown like mine was. Should be clear! If you find your brake bleeders are stuck, then you'll want to heat them up red hot, apply a wet towel and then loosen them..works like a charm and haven't had a broken bleeder since using this approach on stubborn ones. The cheap $60 map/oxy torch kit you can buy anywhere is what I have...you can braze with it if you need to.
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby xit [OP] » August 18th 2015, 1:21pm

Just a follow up on this: I used the 1/4" PolyArmour brake line, that is some good stuff. The line will bend by hand but I did have a tubing bender so it was that much easier. No I did not drop the tank, instead, I went around it making a one piece line, any where it came close to an object I put a piece of split rubber hose & secured it with wire ties. No problem with the bleeders, the worked like new so I gravity bled the brakes and after about 15 minutes all was good. It has been several days since I completed the job, no leaks & the brakes are like they should be. My only suggestion would be to have a good set of line wrenches, other wrenches may work but line wrenches will not round off the line nuts, also a good double flare tool, it took me two tries to make a very nice double flare. :rockon: :rockon:
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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby ihatemybike » August 18th 2015, 1:36pm

I recently picked up a Cal-Van inline double flaring tool and OMG it makes creating flares sooooo much easier.

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Re: Thought I found my leak

Postby xit [OP] » August 18th 2015, 2:45pm

That looks like a fine tool
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