Idler arms replacement

Idler arms replacement

Postby ally_g [OP] » June 6th 2009, 9:48pm

Need to replace the idler arms on a GMC Safari van 1988. Have the Haynes manual but some of what the book refers to does not seem correct. Am referencing a photo in the book I have which mentions using a two jaw puller to separate the idler arm from the linkage,only the picture is of a ball joint and not the idler arm.Is there a section on this site that deals with the procedure ? I have read some posts which reference using the Moog Problem solver.Are these worth the extra $ that they cost ? I live in Oshawa, Ontario,Canada.Planned on having a mechanic friend do this,only he has not returned my calls about whether he has ordered the parts and when he would be able to do the work.Am at a point where I am thinking about doing the re and re myself.The tires I had on,one wore down to the steel belt or cord on the inner edge of the front tires, which was what brought my attention to the problem.The mechanic friend also noticed when he replaced the front rotors,grease seals,brake pads and front shocks,that the idler arms needed to to replaced.(too much play).Suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.Thank you.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby astro355 » June 6th 2009, 11:39pm

Hello,
yes the Moog problem solvers are your best bet. Regular ones will wear out again. And you could use a two jaw puller to seperate an idler arm from the centerlink, like a ball joint.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby mikebenghp » June 7th 2009, 12:47am

i replaced mine last week. All i needed was a hammer and pickle fork. 20 minute job with grease job.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby Big_kid » June 7th 2009, 4:23am

mikebenghp wrote:i replaced mine last week. All i needed was a hammer and pickle fork. 20 minute job with grease job.

X2. Did mine about 2 months ago, went with Moog after reading here.

Separate the joint at the drag link before unbolting it from the frame.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby gtkane » June 7th 2009, 1:52pm

Smack it with a hammer to seperate. Works everytime.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby mikebenghp » June 7th 2009, 4:50pm

the hammer method works best if you disconnect the swivel joint first, leaving the two bolts attached to the frame. speaking from experience. hitting it with a hammer AFTER removing bolts from the frame is both comical and completely impossible, at least it was for me.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby gtkane » June 7th 2009, 9:37pm

Quite true!
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby Big_kid » June 7th 2009, 10:37pm

I didn't say how I knew this. :whistle:
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby Black89cs » June 20th 2009, 12:13am

astro355 wrote:Hello,
yes the Moog problem solvers are your best bet. Regular ones will wear out again. And you could use a two jaw puller to seperate an idler arm from the centerlink, like a ball joint.


Don't mean to hijack the thread but you wouldn't happen to have a link to the Moog replacement parts would you? My front-end is getting quite scary and I think it's about time to put a little bit of work into it before I turn the wheel but go straight. :mrgreen:
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby astro355 » June 20th 2009, 5:18am

I got mine thru the school I attended. I couldn't find any listing online for them yet. All I could find was this:

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/MkMdlYrSearchCmd?storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1&N=1544225+4294951570&Ne=1147708&searchType=MkMdlYrSearch

I'm not sure those are the same ones though. :confused:
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby ihatemybike » June 22nd 2009, 12:54pm

I get mine from http://www.rockauto.com.

Just created a shopping cart for you. $125.58 for both before shipping.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby guyonearth » June 22nd 2009, 4:36pm

If you hit it with two hammers, i.e. use one as an anvil, you can usually get it to split if you've made the mistake of unbolting it. I've seen people do some crazy things. I just worked on a car where somebody replaced the tie rods by hacksawing the nuts and studs off!
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby Ericglo » July 10th 2009, 8:23pm

Just wanted to throw in a thumbs up for XRF idler arms. I put them on a couple of months ago and haven't had a problem.
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Re: Idler arms replacement

Postby Big_kid » July 11th 2009, 2:49am

guyonearth wrote:...somebody replaced the tie rods by hacksawing the nuts and studs off!


Some people need to have their tools confiscated! :o
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