first gen/second gen sub categories idea

first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby markmitch [OP] » April 26th 2017, 10:37pm

I would like to see sub categories 1st gen/2nd gen if possible and I asked admin about this idea and he/she suggested I see if the other members would like to see this?
Please feel free to show your interest. Many of the things such as engine swaps and types of transmissions are not divided and may make searching harder for members and specially new members. Thanks, Markmitch
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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby akforceten » April 26th 2017, 10:56pm

that sounds like a good idea !
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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby AstroWill » April 26th 2017, 11:16pm

lol, who searches? :shrug:

I think it would just make things more complicated, esp for new members trying to choose where to post.

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby sixsix » April 26th 2017, 11:37pm

That is not going to be easy - Just saying....

What might be easier and I have been at fault for this in the past.

- Someone asks about xyz on their van and the next 20 responses have nothing to do with their van because it was a 93.
And most people want to carry on about their 2001 or whatever and why it does not look like the OP's stuff.

Or Vice Versus.

Even when it says in their profile or the question what they have or are dealing with.



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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby Mmusicman » April 27th 2017, 2:20am

AstroWill wrote:lol, who searches? :shrug:
I think it would just make things more complicated, esp for new members trying to choose where to post.

I tend to agree with this. Besides, I always just follow "active topics" anyway.. so it doesn't matter to me much where you post. I think there are already plenty of categories... just my $.02

Bottom line: makes no difference to me.
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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby gavio » April 27th 2017, 2:34am

In principle, I get where you're coming from Mark, but in application, I think it would get way complicated......

FIrst, there is a lot that is shared between gen1 and gen2 vans.....

Then, there are an insane number of running changes made throughout the Astro's production run, and new vs old doesn't correspond neatly to a gen1-gen2 split.... AWD systems are one significant example that comes to mind, but there's a billion more minor things, too.....

What would we do with the poor '95s?

And what about so-called gen3s?

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby Mmusicman » April 27th 2017, 2:47am

gavio wrote:And what about so-called gen3s?

File that one next to Unicorns! :shock:
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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby AstroWill » April 27th 2017, 2:49am

gavio wrote:What would we do with the poor '95s?

Beat them like the red headed step children they are.

gavio wrote:And what about so-called gen3s?

Shun them, and forward any good deals to my PM inbox ;)

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby markmitch [OP] » April 27th 2017, 4:09am

Well according to wikipedia there is no gen 3 and they are divided by 1985 to 1994 is 1st gen and 95 to 2005 is 2nd gen. But how about this idea then: how about adding it to the op's signature so it show up when the person posts that way readers no which gen the op is speak of. Then if someone owns a 1st and 2nd gen they will have to let the readers know which one.
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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby AstroWill » April 27th 2017, 4:23am

markmitch wrote:Well according to wikipedia there is no gen 3

Guess I will have to go and edit that.

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby markmitch [OP] » April 27th 2017, 5:44am

Even in my chiltons manual it says 85 to 94 1st gen and 95 to 2005 gen 2 has no listing for a gen 3 at all. My haynes does not list any generation info it just shows by year and the changes.
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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby gavio » April 27th 2017, 6:17am

The term gen3 seems to just be a kind of shorthand I see folks frequently use on this forum for the 03-05 vans which have some fairly significant differences...

how about adding it to the op's signature so it show up when the person posts that way readers no which gen the op is speak of.


Seems like that's accomplished by the listing of the model year in the profile - it shows up in every post... Unless of course, the member doesn't list it, in which case it wouldn't designate a generation either....

What would we do with the poor '95s?


Beat them like the red headed step children they are.


Hmmm, and then what???????
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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby admin » April 27th 2017, 5:26pm

Hey guys,

Seems like there's more leaning towards against the idea of creating these sub sections (as one mentioned that both gens share a lot of the same qualities). That said, what do you guys think about adding a prefix to differentiate the different generations so that might be easier to search within the section?

Let us know what you think about that and we'll go from there. Thanks!

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby icebrrg3rd » April 27th 2017, 5:50pm

gavio wrote:What would we do with the poor '95s?

AstroWill wrote:Beat them like the red headed step children they are.


Hmmm, and then what???????


Tell them to come off the fence and decide once and for all, are they 1st gen trapped in a 2nd gen body or a 2nd gen that inwardly wants to be a 1st gen.

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby Mmusicman » April 27th 2017, 6:08pm

SUGGESTION:

Change choice options in profile "Make/Model" to "Model"

from:
* Chevrolet/Astro
* GMC/Safari
(I think we all know who makes them)

to:
* Astro (for newbies who aren't sure)
* Astro/Gen 1
* Astro/Gen 2
* Safari (for newbies who aren't sure)
* Safari/Gen 1
* Safari/Gen 2
* Unknown/Other

Easy enough! :D

PS: Except it doesn't really deal with people who have several models..
Should be able to input more than one van
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Number 1 or Number 2...??

Postby sixsix » April 27th 2017, 8:39pm

icebrrg3rd wrote:Tell them to come off the fence and decide once and for all, are they 1st gen trapped in a 2nd gen body or a 2nd gen that inwardly wants to be a 1st gen.

And if they don't decide, we shall taunt them a second time...

Yeah, but where do they go to the Bathroom...? hmmmm...?



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Re: Number 1 or Number 2...??

Postby AstroWill » April 27th 2017, 8:47pm

sixsix wrote:We owned The Van 23 years and not until I came to this Forum did I know there were diff. GENs.
. . .I think the Year is sufficient - not many pay attention to it anyway.

:handgestures-thumbupleft:



IMO it just seems redundant to me if you already have a place for the year.

It would be cool to be able to input more than one van, but where do we draw the line? I currently own 4 and looking to add a 5th. ;)

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby admin » April 28th 2017, 3:06pm

sixsix wrote:
-Andrew

p.s. the sub-catagories we already have, are they fixed yet?


^ Which sub categories are you referencing to? What are the issues in these? Can you provide links? Thanks.
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Mmusicman wrote:SUGGESTION:

Change choice options in profile "Make/Model" to "Model"

from:
* Chevrolet/Astro
* GMC/Safari
(I think we all know who makes them)

to:
* Astro (for newbies who aren't sure)
* Astro/Gen 1
* Astro/Gen 2
* Safari (for newbies who aren't sure)
* Safari/Gen 1
* Safari/Gen 2
* Unknown/Other

Easy enough! :D

PS: Except it doesn't really deal with people who have several models..
Should be able to input more than one van


^ What do others think? Do you guys agree with this?

What do you guys think of my suggestion of adding prefixes for the 1st and 2nd gens? Let us know so we can get the ball rolling on these topics. Thanks guys!

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

Postby AstroWill » April 28th 2017, 3:26pm

Admin wrote:
Mmusicman wrote:SUGGESTION:

Change choice options in profile "Make/Model" to "Model"

from:
* Chevrolet/Astro
* GMC/Safari
(I think we all know who makes them)

to:
* Astro (for newbies who aren't sure)
* Astro/Gen 1
* Astro/Gen 2
* Safari (for newbies who aren't sure)
* Safari/Gen 1
* Safari/Gen 2
* Unknown/Other

Easy enough! :D

PS: Except it doesn't really deal with people who have several models..
Should be able to input more than one van


^ What do others think? Do you guys agree with this?

What do you guys think of my suggestion of adding prefixes for the 1st and 2nd gens? Let us know so we can get the ball rolling on these topics.

I guess if we have to have any of it I would go with MMs idea. Or, allow it to be an alphanumeric string, or just increase the size of the 'extra info' field, that way if you want to brag about 1st/2nd/3rd gen, you can do it there, or people can just put it in their signatures.


Thanks Natalie for being on top of things!

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Re: first gen/second gen sub categories idea

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People can't even get their pix upright or use the search function and you want to add more complexity. What we need is an "ASK WILL" button on the homepage to save anyone from having to actually do anything (except Will).
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