my new old camaro

my new old camaro

Postby 1992RS [OP] » April 7th 2010, 9:52pm

This is my 86 camaro I traded my van for.. It doesnt look like much but give me a few months and it should be alot prettier.
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Hey at least its a chevy and something a little easier to wrench on.. :banana: :chevy: :banana:
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby chevy57bert » April 7th 2010, 9:57pm

4 weeks tony. then you will be an astroholic again :rofl: :rofl:

one thing is good on this camaro.. it`s that bottle of beer on the hood :mrgreen:
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby jeff's93astro » April 7th 2010, 10:03pm

thats the same body style camaro i once had and was gonna get another of before i got my first safari
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby diego89 » April 8th 2010, 3:33am

what are the plans
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby Jasen » April 8th 2010, 4:48am

One bottle and it'll look like it just rolled off the show room floor ;)

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Re: my new old camaro

Postby 1992RS [OP] » April 8th 2010, 5:17am

First things first I am changing the tranny and the exhaust, then I am going to strip the paint and get to the body work, I already found new front fenders for 54 a piecs through rock auto and I am going to get the rear drivers quarter repaired as there is a small spot in front of the tire that is rusted about the size of a playing card. after that its gonna be a little bondo work and primer for the summer then in the winter I am gonna pull the little low mile v6 and put in a 5.0 or a 5.7. the only reason I am considering the 5.0 is that was what the camaros came with. another thing I thought about was putting in a 4.3 from my buddys 93 blazer that got smushed in the back. anybody think that this would be a hard swap?
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby hardlecure » April 8th 2010, 6:12am

1992RS wrote:Hey at least its a chevy and something a little easier to wrench on.. :banana: :chevy: :banana:



Yeah... There's only 2 kinds of vehicles that I find are a pain to work on.. Jaguars and Astros. As long as the Camaro doesn't have the TPI 350 it should be a complete piece of cake to work on. Only thing I don't like about them is that if you need to replace the fuel tank, you have to drop the rear diff first then the fuel tank can come out. Aside from that, they're pretty good :)
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby 1992RS [OP] » April 8th 2010, 6:41am

well, hope fully it will be a 4.3 vortec soon, I fell in love with that engine when i had my astro so I figured that it would be a really cool swap from the 2.8 it has now, a whole lot more power at least... I am just concerned with the bolt pattern for the tranny being different between the 2.8 and the 4.3 even though they both use a 700r4 oh well though I can always swap bell housings i guess
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby astro355 » April 8th 2010, 7:20am

1992RS wrote:well, hope fully it will be a 4.3 vortec soon, I fell in love with that engine when i had my astro so I figured that it would be a really cool swap from the 2.8 it has now, a whole lot more power at least... I am just concerned with the bolt pattern for the tranny being different between the 2.8 and the 4.3 even though they both use a 700r4 oh well though I can always swap bell housings i guess


Swap bellhousings? I think you mean swap transmissions. You are correct, the 60* V6's have a different bolt pattern because of the narrower engine block. I've had a couple of F-bodies in my day and if you are going to swap an engine in, just make it a V8. But don't get me wrong, V6s are fun too. I had a 91 Formula that I put a 3.4L in and ran 13s.
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby Mr_Bowtie » April 8th 2010, 1:55pm

Did you trade straight up?

Best of luck with the 3rd gen. I have owned 4 of them over the years('85 sport coupe, '89 RS, '88 Trans Am, '87 Iroc-z). Go V8 or go home! TPI system isn't too bad to work on really. Just don't bend the runners or anything stupid. :whistle:

For God's sake find some better wheels to put on that thing. Craigslist baby.......you can build a whole 3rd gen off craigslist. :layrubber:

Is that a factory fiberglass hood on there off a early Z28?
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby 1992RS [OP] » April 8th 2010, 6:37pm

well, as far as the tranny goes it is a 700r4 so thats why i say swap bellhousings, as in get a tranny from astro and put camaro bellhousing on astro tranny so astro tranny fit camaro they the The last thing i want is to spend more $ than i have to on getting it on the road.
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby astro355 » April 8th 2010, 9:07pm

1992RS wrote:well, as far as the tranny goes it is a 700r4 so thats why i say swap bellhousings, as in get a tranny from astro and put camaro bellhousing on astro tranny so astro tranny fit camaro they the The last thing i want is to spend more $ than i have to on getting it on the road.


There is no removable bellhousing on a 700r4. The aluminum case of a 700r4 is one piece, all the way from the engine mating surface to the rear tailshaft mating surface. That's why I say swapping the transmission. Unless you are talking about removing the internal parts of the 60* 700r4 and installing them in a 90* 700r4, which I really would not recommend.
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby 1992RS [OP] » April 8th 2010, 10:02pm

ok, i guess I have never closely looked at a 700r4 just pulled one and dropped in a new one so basically if i want the bigger motor I would just get a motor and tranny together. Now 355 you have a bit of experience with the third gen camaros right? i was just wondering if you knew anything about the wiring for the hatch pull down motor, mine went down and now it wont raise back up, any ideas? is there a relay that could be faulty?? if you wish pm me on this subject or if any body knows aboput these please feel free to chime in or pm me
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby Mr_Bowtie » April 8th 2010, 10:42pm

The hatch pop is a problem area thats all I know. :lol:


355 do they make an adapter plate or anything to hook up the bigger 700r4 with the 2.8L? That way he could pick up a V8 tranny and be all set up that way if he does go with a bigger motor weather its a 4.3 or V8? :shrug:
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby astro355 » April 9th 2010, 5:14am

1992RS wrote:ok, i guess I have never closely looked at a 700r4 just pulled one and dropped in a new one so basically if i want the bigger motor I would just get a motor and tranny together. Now 355 you have a bit of experience with the third gen camaros right? i was just wondering if you knew anything about the wiring for the hatch pull down motor, mine went down and now it wont raise back up, any ideas? is there a relay that could be faulty?? if you wish pm me on this subject or if any body knows aboput these please feel free to chime in or pm me


I used to rebuild those hatch motors. The parts were so cheap and every F-body I parted out had one that needed to be rebuilt. Do you hear the motor spinning when you try to open the hatch? If you pull up on the hatch, does it feel solid? There is a plastic worm-gear in there that strips. There is also a relay attached to the motor but you need to remove the back panel to access it and need the hatch open to access the panel.
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby astro355 » April 9th 2010, 5:16am

Mr_Bowtie wrote:The hatch pop is a problem area thats all I know. :lol:


355 do they make an adapter plate or anything to hook up the bigger 700r4 with the 2.8L? That way he could pick up a V8 tranny and be all set up that way if he does go with a bigger motor weather its a 4.3 or V8? :shrug:


No, i have never seen an adapter plate for that. FYI, the 700r4's are the same size, just the bellhousing areas are different to accommodate the different bolt patterns.
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby 1992RS [OP] » April 9th 2010, 6:08am

my problem with the hatch motor is that it only worked one time.. It was stuck in the raised position when I got the car and while doing some fiddling with the wires and tapping the motor I then closed the hatch and wala it it pulled the hatch nice and snug then upon opening it the latch stayed down but the hatch opened now I cant get it to raise and the hatch wont latch either, the motor doesnt run when the release is pushed and also the motor doesnt run when i use the key behind the rear plate. I just dont understand the wiring to it other wise I would run a switch temporarily to test the motor do you by chance have a wiring schematic for this little p.i.t.a. motor?? I would really like my hatch to latch
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby astro355 » April 9th 2010, 7:55am

1992RS wrote:my problem with the hatch motor is that it only worked one time.. It was stuck in the raised position when I got the car and while doing some fiddling with the wires and tapping the motor I then closed the hatch and wala it it pulled the hatch nice and snug then upon opening it the latch stayed down but the hatch opened now I cant get it to raise and the hatch wont latch either, the motor doesnt run when the release is pushed and also the motor doesnt run when i use the key behind the rear plate. I just dont understand the wiring to it other wise I would run a switch temporarily to test the motor do you by chance have a wiring schematic for this little p.i.t.a. motor?? I would really like my hatch to latch


The wiring schematic will not help you with these. These motors break because:

-the plastic worm gear strips
-the plastic worm gear housing breaks
-the controller burns out
-the relay can go out but I've never seen it

So is the hatch open right now? If so, can you post a picture of the motor assembly? Maybe I can tell you what is wrong with it.
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby 1992RS [OP] » April 9th 2010, 8:03am

I will look into the pic tomorrow, I am sure the gear is good cause it pulled the hatch down, not sure about any of the others mentioned and I suppose if it worked once the relay is probably ok and oh yeah the hatch is open, so ill pull the panel off and clean out the dust, the p.o. lived on a gravel road in north dakota so one good thing no salt on the roads there from what I know.
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Re: my new old camaro

Postby Mr_Bowtie » April 9th 2010, 2:20pm

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Mr_Bowtie wrote:The hatch pop is a problem area thats all I know. :lol:


355 do they make an adapter plate or anything to hook up the bigger 700r4 with the 2.8L? That way he could pick up a V8 tranny and be all set up that way if he does go with a bigger motor weather its a 4.3 or V8? :shrug:


No, i have never seen an adapter plate for that. FYI, the 700r4's are the same size, just the bellhousing areas are different to accommodate the different bolt patterns.


Well thats really too bad they didn't make that bellhousing removable then.
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