Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Postby interestingfellow [OP] » April 1st 2011, 2:34pm

I just recently put on stock mid 80's rims and tires and love'm. But how hard is it to bend 1 or more of them?
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I drive like it's stolen, always have. I've also almost always had stock stamped steel rims on my vehicles/never had Al rims and have no experience with them. These ones feel pretty dern heavy duty, to me at least.
I was blowing through a bus parking lot the other day, pretty hard n fast, with some nasty potholes and started noticing that night that my astro now wobbles. From about 2mph to 7mph, I can feel the van kick side to side, ever so slightly, and it feels like it's synced with the tires' rotation.

I may just not have ever noticed this action, but I doubt it.
I looked quickly, and didn't see any bulges or irregularities in the tires' ruber.
I also just replaced both idler arms before noticing this, and all the other ball joints look good.
My power steering high pressure line is also leaking, I'm waiting for Va's rain to stop to swap it out. I'm really hoping the pump/gearbox is just pulsing and leaking, causing the symptom.


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Re: Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Postby throrope » April 1st 2011, 3:03pm

I suggest you swap the wheels front to back. If the wobble goes away and your backside feels like you put a quarter in the motel bed, you may have tossed a balancing weight, destroyed a tire or broke a rim. IMHO, after that it gets expensive.

As far as the power steering leak, check the brake hydro boost and fluid reservoir. Ours leaked for years while I put off the $650 replacement part from the dealer. Then I found a guaranteed for life rebuilt one at Autozone or Advanced Auto for $136 bucks. Off and on about an hour later in the driveway.

I also suggest you consider changing your driving habits.

In '98 we bought a 4500 lb travel trailer and towed it from PA to the OBX for 10 years. We were the last ones off the line, planned on stopping at every green light since a short yellow made us go through red, increased following distance by 10x and only ran 65 on the most perfect highways. Funny thing, we made our destination in the same time. Seems more time is lost at rest areas. That got me thinking. I increased my margin of safety by a factor of ten, babied the truck and lost nothing. So after near thirty years on the road, I learned something new and now do different everyday.

Astros are not sports cars, last forever and are no longer built. Driving them hard doesn't prove anything, sends them to an early grave and endangers all who share the road with you.

BTW, our '94 with 192K never had a front end alignment, except for the idler arms has the original suspension including front shocks and gets 75K out of the tires.
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Re: Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Postby interestingfellow [OP] » April 1st 2011, 6:34pm

Thorope,
Good call on swapping the tires around and I have no boost. Just a pump, box, and 2 lines.

Also, please don't be offended, but let me explain;
Do I drive fast? hell yes
Do I ride other people like it's an automotive porno? NO. I can't stand bobbers,weavers, hard brakers, and pilots that feel as though it is necissary to go 0-70 in 2 seconds everytime. They make the road way dangerous.
I follow .5-1 car length for every 10mph
I don't take off from a dead stop (allright, only every once in a while. really. like 1 outta 100+ times)
I brake early and drive defensively (only faster, it's just at the same time)
I move outta other ace holes' way
I always have an escape route (%98 of the time)

But, I believe in spending no more than $1k on a car during initial purchase, for me. I work construction, and stuff happens. dents, nails, falling objects, tools and materials shift around inside. I do like to try to take as best a care of my vehicle as possible, but I do buy it for the purpose of using it. I could never own a newer than 5 year old car: I wouldn't be able to drive it for fear of tearing it up.

Also, as far as the driving it like it's stolen thing: in this circumstance, I was on a 7 acre bus lot (the former ford plant in Norfolk Va), which is TERRIBLE. There are two "potholes" big enough for me to park in. For sharp pot holes, I maneuver first, and if I can't I slow down. Sometimes, I can't do iether, but I drive around the lot getting signs and supplies or finding empty buses to put them on, I don't have time to slow down: seriously (that's not just the assumption of this arrogant sob).

So, as I said, stuff happens.
I have, however, learned and applied, and continue to learn and apply, many of those ideals that my father tried soo hard to get through that thick skull of his (then) 16 year old indestructible know it all son (me). It has been a many a years, and I have changed many things.

Furthermore, Thank you!
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Re: Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Postby redfury » April 2nd 2011, 12:50am

sounds to me more likely that you broke the belt in the tire when you hit the pothole. It won't be visible, but you'll feel it.
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Re: Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Postby WoodButcher » April 2nd 2011, 3:26am

interestingfellow wrote:Do I drive fast? hell yes
Do I ride other people like it's an automotive porno? NO. I can't stand bobbers,weavers, hard brakers, and pilots that feel as though it is necissary to go 0-70 in 2 seconds everytime. They make the road way dangerous.


:rofl: :rofl:
throrope wrote:I also suggest you consider changing your driving habits.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I agree w/ both of you for most of your comments.

I'm a carpenter and my van is always loaded, I've upgraded the suspension and run truck tires between 50 -55 lbs depending on the season. If I were to drive like grandma on Sunday morning every day I would still kill a stock safari or astro, well,,, I don't. Most days I could leave my coffee on the dash and get to the jobsite w/o spillage. (I do have a custom built center console w/ TWIN CUPHOLDERS!!!) I love it when I get idiots sniffing my rear bumper, I'll bring up the speed gradually letting them focus hard on reading the small letters on my plate or whatever it is they are trying to read and when I roll through that hard right turn w/o braking they are suddenly in a turn they can't make!
I love this van, It handles like a go cart and has a little torque to boot! :lol:

Let's face it, the reason these vans are so popular is their drive ability. When I bought this one I owned a chevy Beaville w/ a 305 and drove a company '99 E 350 longbody, that had a 7.3L Powerstroke Turbo Diesel for work. This little van was bone stock but for the pepto pink paint and the brackets for a pair of missing roof racks. It was 3 years old w/ 125 K on the odometer. Pulling out of the parking lot for a test drive into heavy traffic I chirped the rear tire unintentionally, Surprised at the pep this thing showed about a 1/4 mile down the road in a parking lot I let that little van rip from a dead stop in a straight line and it really had balls. After letting the smoke air out I went back to the lot and handed the man $3,000 cash. I didn't even try to haggle, I paid the man.


Back on topic, Exactly what throrope said, swap front to back first, it may give you direction to look, which wheel is problematic. If you have a balanced, matched spare that would help alot.
My kid just had a tire with belt separation on his Jeep but most of tires were worn and unbalanced anyway so I couldn't find which was bad. I had him buy a matched pair of tires from the JY and sent him to the garage where the found the bad tire.
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Re: Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Postby interestingfellow [OP] » April 2nd 2011, 4:56am

Hell Yeah (woodbutcher, you were supposed to ask for a "hell yeah" at the end of your post, I threw it in cause I saw that you forgot)

I'm gonna go with a separated belt in the tire. I've beaten rims wayyyyy harder than that 1 pothole, and it's slowly getting worse (now I can feel it up to ~20mph). The front tires are pretty worn, just enough to pass inspection, so it wouldn't surprise me (they were a bit older anyway). The rear tires barely have the nubs wore off.

I don't have time to look thoroughly now, that's on my Sunday chore list with the p/s lines.

Thanks for the input ya'll!
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Re: Did I bend my stock Al rims?

Postby Big_kid » April 3rd 2011, 3:29am

My money is on a bubble in the tire. A bent rim doesn't get worse on it's own , but a separating tire does.

FWIW- around here there are times when you NEED to be able to 'spit & git' from a dead stop. If you don't, you'll be sitting for a very long time waiting for a break in traffic so you can make your turn, or maybe you just won't get merged in on the interstate.
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