Overwhelmed with tire options

Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby turntupturnip [OP] » November 7th 2017, 8:20pm

So I finished the 2"+1" lift on my 05 AWD Astro, and have been hunting tires on and off for about a month. I want to go as big as possible and don't mind doing a little vanscaping.

I am finding the 16" rims making my tires harder to find.

From my research, I would like 235/80 16, but that seems to be a trailer size tire only, so I think I am looking for 235/75 16s.
As for all terrain tires, Tirerack (both cheaper on Amazon) only has :

Firestone
Destination A/T

Hankook
Dynapro AT-M

I also have been looking at buying some used rims off CL. 15/16/17s accommodating different width tires. I haven't been able to find anything reasonably priced with a decent tire on it, or worthwhile rims sans tires.

I've searched, and researched, but can't come to a conclusion. So I've resorted to posting, even in the knowledge that I will likely be ridiculed with memes and emojis for starting yet another tire size tread. :shrug:

Any recommendations?
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby TurnNburn » November 7th 2017, 8:46pm

15 inch rims will not fit over your calipers

Try looking for standard sizing instead of metric. IE... 30x9.5x16
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby WinnieVan » November 7th 2017, 8:50pm

turntupturnip wrote:So I finished the 2"+1" lift on my 05 AWD Astro, and have been hunting tires on and off for about a month. I want to go as big as possible and don't mind doing a little vanscaping.

I am finding the 16" rims making my tires harder to find.

From my research, I would like 235/80 16, but that seems to be a trailer size tire only, so I think I am looking for 235/75 16s.
As for all terrain tires, Tirerack (both cheaper on Amazon) only has :

Firestone
Destination A/T

Hankook
Dynapro AT-M

I also have been looking at buying some used rims off CL. 15/16/17s accommodating different width tires. I haven't been able to find anything reasonably priced with a decent tire on it, or worthwhile rims sans tires.

I've searched, and researched, but can't come to a conclusion. So I've resorted to posting, even in the knowledge that I will likely be ridiculed with memes and emojis for starting yet another tire size tread. :shrug:

Any recommendations?


I hate Black Friday -- but you might find good deals on Wheels/Tires then.

Tires/wheels are an investment and they aren't cheap. You can always keep the wheels you have and get new tires and upgrade at a later date too. Sure you'll have to pay for balancing/mounting again... but it is a possibility.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby 1lowcab » November 7th 2017, 9:17pm

DON"T GET HANCROOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby WinnieVan » November 7th 2017, 10:13pm

PS. I've been shopping a lot too and I'm torn between:

Yokohama Geolander A/T G015
Kumho RoadVenture AT51
BFG KO2

The clear winner for me is the KO2 but it is more expensive. But like most things on a car -- make decisions based on value to you and how you plan to use them.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby 1lowcab » November 7th 2017, 10:47pm

Check out the Toyo Open Country AT2, I like mine so far, very grippy, nice road manners and get great reviews.

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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby WinnieVan » November 7th 2017, 10:57pm

^^ may or may not cause vibrations.

J/K -- I'm going to look at those too... I likey.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby 1lowcab » November 7th 2017, 11:24pm

may or may not cause vibrations.


LOL, no, that was the Hankooks I had. I think they were square and the company wouldn't do anything about it. Stay away from Hankook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby Mmusicman » November 7th 2017, 11:25pm

1lowcab wrote:DON"T GET HANCROOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT!!!!!!!?????? :shock:

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^^ These are on my 92 and I love them! :D
Totally different type of tire. Sadly they no longer make these (but they are still available)
Before I bought these I had NEVER even heard of them... lol

Coincidentally, I'm ALSO shopping for NEW tires for my AWD! Preferably LT's, something around size 245/70-17 (30.5")... about 1" shorter than what I'm running now, and something less all-terrain and more street. I will say my BFG LT AT tires have been absolutely amazing... with easily over 60K on them and still good tread!

I am considering the Firestone Transforce.
I have one of these (as a spare) on my driver-side rear (replaced a damaged BFG tire) and I like it.
https://www.firestonetire.com/brands/transforce

I've never owned a Firestone before...
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby 1lowcab » November 7th 2017, 11:31pm

These are on my 92 and I love them! :D


A buddy of mine had Hankooks on his Mustang GT and really liked them. Those Dynapro AT's were the first and last Hankooks I'll ever buy, they lost me as a customer....zero customer support and didn't stand behind their tires, and the guy on the Hankook hotline was very rude when I called.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby Leeann_93 » November 8th 2017, 12:46am

I love the Firestone Destination LE2 I have on my '02 - but I loved the Destination LE I had on my '99 better.

I have Geolandar A/T-S 235/70-R16 on my Jeep Liberty and absolutely love them. They're awesome tires. Had Geolandar H/T-S 235/75-R15 on my '93 Olds Bravada - 4.3 AWD 3.73 G80 - and loved them too. Better road manners than the A/T-S but the A/T-S have better offroad manners than the H/T-S.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby turntupturnip [OP] » November 8th 2017, 2:29am

Thanks everyone!

Leeann - How did the Firestones wear?

Winnie - What made you decide on the 2 besides the BFGs?

Lowcab - $$$$$



Everyone - It is my understanding that 235 is the widest tire that I can fit on my stock 05 16" rims. Is that correct?
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby Leeann_93 » November 8th 2017, 3:26am

I have 33,000 miles on them and you can hardly tell.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby WinnieVan » November 8th 2017, 5:02am

turntupturnip wrote:Thanks everyone!
Winnie - What made you decide on the 2 besides the BFGs?


First -- I want snowflake rated tires since I had them once before and really liked them for mountain driving.

Second -- those two had decent reviews and were a bit cheaper for a set of 5

Third -- I liked the aesthetics of each of those tires (and the BFG). I dig the off-road Astro look... and I think the tires have a lot to do with that!

Fourth -- I also like the idea of being able to have a tire that'll withstand some moderate off-road action, since I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go crazy about driving into the boondocks when I start doing it. All three of those tires (and the Toyo lowcab mention) seem to fit the ticket.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby Meterpig » November 8th 2017, 5:46am

So, a common rim size chevy used for years makes it hard to find? Huh. That's interesting.

Go to Big O tires. They have what you need. Of course, you might as well go 265/70/16 if you are gonna go above 225/75/16.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby WimpTech » November 8th 2017, 6:35pm

IMHO...

There are 2 kinds of Dynapro AT/M, one with a thin sidewall and one with a VERY thin sidewall, which is cheaper even still. That's the one I put on the BatVan and drove through the Pismo Sand Dunes (at 15psi) and didn't have an issue there or in the Mojave Desert, but I was very careful to avoid rocks.

DamVan has BFG KM2s which are among the most expensive. The side walls are about 3x thicker than the Dynapros and have taken more abuse without popping than I have seen any other tire in all my years of off-roading. I bought mine used for $200, 5 years old and thinning tread and they are STILL my choice over brand new... well anything other than KM2s, except KO2s which is the AT BFG and the defacto standard for AT tires since the invention of the frickin wheel, pretty sure.

So, if you are gonna hit offroad hard where there is limited support, consider spending the extra cash on BFGs. If not then go cheaper.
There's also the Kenda KR28 (AT) and KR29 (MT) which are cheaper than dirt. So far we only have 1 report on the KENDA MTs which was positive so far.

In terms of size, if you're not afraid of VANSCAPING :rofl:
245/75/16 is what I run and have no issues with rubbing, but I'm running the 3+1 lift. Personally I wouldn't go any larger since the minuscule gain in rolling distance isn't sufficient to warrant all the clearance issues.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby Corsemoto » November 8th 2017, 9:08pm

I see no mention of load rating other than what Wimpy just mentioned. You should determine that along with what size/diameter tire you want (what's your gear ratio?).

I went with 245/75-16 mainly due to all the tire choices and load ranges available in that size from light duty, XL, C, D, E...

I had E load range tires and they were overkill, too much for the lighter weight of the van even when loaded and really just too heavy overall as well. I went to a C load range which is much lighter overall but still has a better load rating and plies for a bit more protection off pavement.

I've had several sets of Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S and they were great all around tires, the new G015 seems even better though I haven't tried them. I went with Cooper A/T3 C load range tires this last time.

Also, maybe check out http://www.discounttiredirect.com or their Ebay store as you may be able to find a good deal even if having to pay tax and can take advantage of a few rebates at times. I just subtract all the extras they add to the shopping cart and you may or may not be interested in their road hazard program.
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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

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Re: Overwhelmed with tire options

Postby kmtechman1 » November 8th 2017, 9:47pm

I am a high performance tire geek for price versus performance. I have been using Hercules Extreme Avalanche. Major snow and mud tires. 235/65/16 for my stock Safari. I have to go hundreds of miles to work in snow and ice. A set of 4 mounted, balanced, installed for $450.
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