Thinking of getting these tires

Thinking of getting these tires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 5th 2012, 3:31am

Mrs Boss points out today that some of the tires look low on the van, so I topped them off at 35 psi. I carry close to max load in it everyday, which is to much for the BFG Radial T/A's and has me riding a bit low. Later she say's, I thought you filled your tires, yada yada yada, I really need to get different tires, she say's, well how much are they...

If I get new skins i'll be doing good, but there is no chance of even a small lift other then cranking the T bars a bit.
I've been researching tires the past few hrs. and playing with an online tire calculator and this is what I've come up with.


OE 215x75x15------------------Dia. 27.7 width 8.46 circum. --87.1- sidewall H. 6.35- MPH 60---load----RPMile 728
I've got BFG T/A's 225x70x15-----27.4--------8.86----------86.08-------------6.2--- 59.36---1753------------736
BFG long trail tour 235x75x15XL--28.88-------9.25----------90.72-------------6.94---62.56---1925-----------698

The LTT's are 44 psi, so that should help with MPG compared to the over loaded squishy 35 psi T/A's

Keeping in mind I've got about 3/4 ton of tools in it and it's AWD, what do all y'all think.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby trapper20 » March 5th 2012, 4:16am

I agree that an LT-rated tire would be a good idea. I wonder, though, if 235's would cause a noticeable decrease in power? Also, the added width might take away the gas mileage you hope to gain. Just my thoughts. I would go with the 235's unless there are some LT-rated 225-75-15's out there.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » March 5th 2012, 4:29am

I've got 30s and acceleration and gas mileage hasn't suffered so I can't see a 235/75/15 being a problem to run. Shouldn't need a lift for that size and a lot of LT tires are available in that size. Very few choices for LT tires when you go smaller than 235/75/15.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Lumpy » March 5th 2012, 5:09am

My 31x1050s are rated for 50PSI max. I've experimented a lot between 35 and 50. At higher pressures, the ride is pretty stiff. I generally keep them now at 40, around town. Less pressure means they act like huge pillows instead of huge pneumatic cylinders. All that air and rubber make a big cushion. Rides really, really smooth.

I don't haul anything at all usually. But a few days ago I hauled 6x 80 lb bags of horse feed. Only thing that did was make it even smoother. Didn't lower the rear end, I don't think, at all.

I'm not sure how any of that relates to your situation. But it seems there's probably some kind of balance between how stiff the springs are vs how stiff the tires are. Throw in shocks (I've got adjustable Ranchos) and there's a third part in the equation.

So again, I don't know how any of that applies. But think in terms of balance. A little bit tires, little bit springs, little bit shocks etc.


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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 5th 2012, 5:52am

Shad0wXCalibur wrote: Very few choices for LT tires when you go smaller than 235/75/15.


That's what brought me to the 235's, can't really get much with a 108 load rating on anything smaller. PnP only wants $7 for steel wheels (if you can find a full set) so I looked at 16's, but the tire sizes started looking like I would need a lift to get them under it. I'd lift it 1-2" but it's not in the budget :(

Rides is important as well, I've driven enough box of rocks, but with the weight I've got in there, it'll smooth a stiff walled tire out.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Big_kid » March 5th 2012, 6:13am

I love my Grabber AT2's. They're LT, rated (from memory) 44PSI & 1735(?) lbs. The ones on my former work van (1500)were actually load range E & made it to 85K with the driver side still having useable tread. They are quite a bit stiffer and give a MUCH better ride than the car tires that were on it before. It's a conversion van, so there's a bit of weight in it at all times.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » March 5th 2012, 6:42pm

I think you'd be happy with a 235/75/15. More sidewall = comfort as Lumpy stated and even if you had to trim, it would be very little I would think. My 30s at 40psi ride smoother than the 215/75/15s did at 35 psi
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 5th 2012, 7:01pm

Mrs Boss said go for it. I think I'm going to do the patented Lumpy cardboard template mock up test just to make sure I don't run into something unforeseen.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 7th 2012, 12:07am

I took some measurements today, it's a bit tight, 1.2" taller 3/4" wider then OE. Probably pull the tires and take them up in the Wrangler.

So now I'm sitting here :think: there both the same specs and $2 different in price.

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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby kornphlake » March 7th 2012, 12:36am

I like the look of the Rugged Terrain for someone else's van, for my own I'd probably go with the Long Trails, the tread looks quieter. If a noisy tire something you can see from a picture of the tread or not I don't know, it just seems like tires with bigger tread blocks tend to make more noise.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 7th 2012, 1:19am

I've got 31" A/T's on the Wrangler, you can here them, but there not bad at all, other brands of similar tires I've had pass me on the road are far louder.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » March 7th 2012, 1:29am

Fwiw, its worth, my a/TS are as quiet as a passenger tire.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 7th 2012, 9:40am

Ok, think I'm going to go for the MPG and go with the long trails. The Radial T/A's I have on now and AWD did so well in the snow this year I really don't need the Rugged's for other then look's.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Lumpy » March 7th 2012, 10:19am

Jasen wrote:
... I really don't need the Rugged's for other then look's.



Looks aren't important.

... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 7th 2012, 10:30am

Ok, Mr. Big Knobby tires :lol:

Maybe I should have said, other then to have the off road look vrs. the clean look.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Lumpy » March 7th 2012, 4:31pm

Jasen wrote:
Ok, Mr. Big Knobby tires :lol:

Maybe I should have said, other then to have the off road look vrs. the clean look.



Looking clean. THAT's important.

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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 7th 2012, 6:12pm

You just wait Mr. I'll show you clean tires, I'm gonna soak 'em in high gloss, super wet tire shine.

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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » March 7th 2012, 7:34pm

That tire shine crap leaked onto one of my wheels and hazed up near the rim where the weights attach and still won't come off
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Jasen [OP] » March 7th 2012, 8:22pm

I'm not sure about some of the new tire dressing out there. Back in the day working in detail shops, we used a petroleum base silicone dressing. In 8,000 cars it never messed anything up. I used to do my tires with bumper magic, which was thick as honey and had a lot more silicone in it then the spray on stuff. I'd do it in the AM on a warm day, then go at the end of the day and spray it with the lighter stuff to wipe the excess goop off. The tires would look good for a few months and would clean up with a squirt of the hose.
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Re: Thinking of getting thesetires

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » March 7th 2012, 8:56pm

Meh. Dirt looks better. I'll just let that cover up the haze :lol: . I don't bother detailing my vehicles. I just wash the the harmful stuff off like bug guts and bird poop because it gets dirty the same day I wash it. A lot of gravel, dirt roads, and roads under construction around here. Gets real fun when it rains. Those A/Ts fill up after driving down a slightly muddy driveway or road and throw it everywhere :D
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