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Postby pmac43 [OP] » April 16th 2012, 9:11pm

235/75R15 on a 1987 with no lift. Anyone done this and did it rub? Its only 3/4" wider than a 215 right?
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Jasen » April 16th 2012, 9:45pm

Don't forget about the height, I think that tire is 2" taller then OE
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » April 16th 2012, 10:07pm

It will fit fine. Test fitted one on my 87 before with absolutely no problem. Looks much better than the 205/75
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Mr_Bowtie » April 16th 2012, 10:46pm

Lots of members have done that tire size withot any problems. Depends on what kind of condition your suspension is in? If the front end is sagging real bad you might have to do a little trimming as you may rub in tight turns like up driveways and such. Every Van is different. :shrug:

235/70/15 are wider, but same height as stock size tire. Then your speedo will be on too.
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby pmac43 [OP] » April 17th 2012, 2:00am

Walmart had these at $82 a peice so I snagged em. They wouldnt put em on because it wasnt reccomended for my vehice. Lost money fools!! I just took em to discount tire here in downtown lincoln and they did an awesome job for $60. Looks awesome! I feel like a kid on christmas morning!!

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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Mr_Bowtie » April 17th 2012, 2:42am

They look great! :clap:
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Lumpy » April 17th 2012, 3:27am

pmac43 wrote:
235/75R15 on a 1987 with no lift. Anyone done this and did it rub? Its only 3/4" wider than a 215 right?



235s are 235mm wide. 215s are 215mm wide. Difference is 25mm. Essentially one inch (25.4mm = 1"). Gen 1 vans, like yours, have an easier time accepting larger tires than the Gen 2 vans. When I was asking myself "will this tire fit?" I got the dimensions from the tire manufacture's website. Then got under the van and started taking measurements and photos. "If this stock tire is 1 inch from that piece of van, then the new tires will be 1/2 inch from the same piece of van" etc. When I got to the point where I was adding wider wheels, very large tires and consider fender cutting and slider door mods, I made a cardboard template of the new prospective wheels and tires. Then I could turn the steering, open the slider etc and see where it would really come close or hit with the new tires and wheels.

Take a lot of pictures, make a lot of drawings. Do it several times as you'll look at your initial drawings and pics and start thinking "I didn't measure from there to there".

As you look at other vans with 235s and no lift, consider not just "will they fit without rubbing" but "how do they look". At some point you might feel like there's too much rubber in the wheel well. That's the point where you should consider lifting it or not going that large with the tires.


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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » April 17th 2012, 4:00am

Looks great. I personally like the stuffed look. I have 30's which are even bigger but I dropped my lift just a little to not put stress on the front suspension and it makes the tires look bigger. Ground clearance is still greatly improved for daily driving :thumbup:

I should have fitted a wheel off my 2000 on the 87 just to goof around and see if it was possible to fit a 30" tire on a stock van but I already sold it :lol:
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby pmac43 [OP] » April 17th 2012, 6:09am

Mr_Bowtie wrote:They look great! :clap:


Thnx man! The ride quality is noticeably better actually. I do wanna do a 2" lift to get a bit more space tho. Doubt that will happen till after the wedding this september. The only reason I got to spend $ on this is cuz we're planning a short colorado trip to climb some 14'ers this summer and my tires were damn near bald. OLV says the 2" kit gives clearance for 29" tires tho. Knowing me i'd prolly upgrade again.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with a 15" rim and 9.25" of tire height on top of that (235mm divided by 25.4 = 9.25") my total tire height is 24.25 inches. The thought of even 29's is enough to drool over haha. I wish I could see your ride in person Lump. Pictures dont do it justice im sure. You should do some offroading and post a video on youtube. I think lots would enjoy that!

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Re: 235/75R15

Postby adam728 » April 17th 2012, 12:12pm

Lumpy wrote:
pmac43 wrote:
235/75R15 on a 1987 with no lift. Anyone done this and did it rub? Its only 3/4" wider than a 215 right?



235s are 235mm wide. 215s are 215mm wide. Difference is 25mm. Essentially one inch (25.4mm = 1").
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pmac43 was right, about 3/4" wider. The difference between 215 and 235 is 20mm, not 25mm. So 0.79" wider.


pmac43 wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but with a 15" rim and 9.25" of tire height on top of that (235mm divided by 25.4 = 9.25") my total tire height is 24.25 inches. The thought of even 29's is enough to drool over haha. I wish I could see your ride in person Lump. Pictures dont do it justice im sure. You should do some offroading and post a video on youtube. I think lots would enjoy that!

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It definitely does look better with the new tires, which are much more than 24.25" tall!

235 is the section width
75 is the sidewall height, as a percentage of section width.

So 235mm / 25.4mm/in = 9.25" section width
9.25 * 75% = 6.9375" tall sidewalls
Two sidewalls and the wheel, so your total height is 6.9375 + 6.9375 + 15 = 28.875" tall. Most are listed as being 29" tall.
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby DonD » April 17th 2012, 1:30pm


It definitely does look better with the new tires, which are much more than 24.25" tall!

235 is the section width
75 is the sidewall height, as a percentage of section width.

So 235mm / 25.4mm/in = 9.25" section width
9.25 * 75% = 6.9375" tall sidewalls
Two sidewalls and the wheel, so your total height is 6.9375 + 6.9375 + 15 = 28.875" tall. Most are listed as being 29" tall.

Yes, my 235/75/15's on my Tracker are just a wisker under 29".
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Mr_Bowtie » April 17th 2012, 1:53pm

Here is a tire size calculator so you guys can quit giving math lessons...... :lol:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html



235/75/15 tires are as close as ya get to 29" tires. They are 1.20" bigger then stock 215/75/15 tires.

With a 2" lift you may notice more rubbing actually as your raising the smaller part of the wheel wells up 2". Right now your wheel wells are stuffed like stated above, so rubbing is minimal if at all. Our wheel wells are TOO SMALL......but nothing a little trimming can't fix.
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Lumpy » April 17th 2012, 2:14pm

adam728 wrote:

... The difference between 215 and 235 is 20mm, not 25mm...




Oops math my. Thanks.


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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Lumpy » April 17th 2012, 2:18pm

Mr_Bowtie wrote:
...With a 2" lift you may notice more rubbing actually as your raising the smaller part of the wheel wells up 2"...



That geometry doesn't seem to affect Gen I vans like it does Gen IIs.


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Re: 235/75R15

Postby davlafont » August 17th 2012, 5:12pm

pmac43 wrote: The ride quality is noticeably better actually.

pmac, what's you're verdict on these now that you've had them for awhile? I'm on the verge of going to Walmart for a set of these Goodyear Wrangler Radials*. Are they quiet or noisy? Squirmy or solid? Grippy or greasy? My van is occasional use, mixed highway/local/dirt road, Boy Scout support and general Man-van duties. Are these Wranglers what I'm looking for?
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby musicmaestro » December 6th 2012, 6:18am

I'd love more info on them too please! With the tire being taller, wouldn't that give you less power for say towing? With 3.73 gears and larger tires, it may tow like it had 4.42's... :(
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » December 6th 2012, 12:05pm

235/75/15 isnt really bigger enough to affect anything especially if you have 3.73 gears. Your van would still tow just fine. Now if you have 3.42s like me and go to 30" tires then towing isnt so great. I've got experience with that.
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Pantaz » January 16th 2013, 2:57am

Are you guys mounting them on stock 15x6.0 rims?
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Shad0wXCalibur » January 16th 2013, 7:02am

The stock rims on these vans are 6.5". Not 6". According to tire charts and whatnot, 6.5" is the ideal width for a 235/75/15 meaning "perfect" fit as far as tire matching wheel.
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Re: 235/75R15

Postby Pantaz » January 16th 2013, 10:06am

Oh, okay. The specs I read for my '85 Safari said 15 x 6. Since reading your post, I did more searching, and it looks like I actually have 15 x 6.5 "10 Slot" alloys from a later model year.

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