Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Postby ericlee303 [OP] » June 3rd 2013, 2:30pm

Just wanted to share my experiences here with tires, since I have a side business used tires and have opportunity to try alot of stuff.

For you guys that are looking to upsize but don't want to shave the stock bumper, I'm currently running 235.70.16 Bridgestone Dueller HT with 5/32nds with about 3/8" clearance to the stock bumper at the worst position. So even if the tire was new, I would still clear.

Not a real aggressive tread pattern, a bit sloppy in the handling department, and not the best for heavy load, but it's much larger than the stock 215.70.16, looks good, and runs really smooth and quiet.

I bet I could run 245.70.16 Dueller with minimal shaving and not even relocating the support.

I had 225.70.16 Winterforce brand new and they were larger in diamter, almost touching the bumper.

Will take photos shortly!
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Re: Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Postby Corsemoto » June 3rd 2013, 6:29pm

Are you talking about a stock or lifted van? I ask because in another thread you mention your van has 2" lift and so there can be significant difference in the amount of tire clearance between lifted/non lifted and just trying to avoid confusion for anyone who may read this thread.

Condition of suspension/ride height is another contributing factor as everyone's van is different. Overall tire diameter is important as well and the Bridgestone Dueler HT is smaller diameter tire for 235/70-16 at 28.5" diameter whereas the Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S is on the larger end at 29.2" and required a bit of bumper cover trimming on my van so something to think about before selecting a tire.

Cooper Discovery AT3 28.8"

General Grabber 29"

BFG Long Trail 29"

BFG TA KO 29.1"
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Re: Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Postby ericlee303 [OP] » June 3rd 2013, 7:12pm

Thanks for the additional info. Van does have a mild lift, about 2".

I did read what you posted, and it's good to know what some of the smaller options are for those that want to use that size with minimal or no trimming. Like you suggested, every van is different and the only way to find out for sure is trial and error.
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Re: Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Postby Corsemoto » June 3rd 2013, 7:40pm

It's gotta be nice to have a bunch of different tires to choose from and try out different sizes! Can't wait to see pics of your van too. :rockon:
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Re: Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Postby gavio » June 3rd 2013, 9:39pm

Thanks ericlee, this is great to know.... It looks like it will be challenging to lift my 03 RWD more than about 2 or 3 inches (given my limited budget/skillset) and I was hoping for 245s with just minor trimming....

Actual tire sizes can vary quite a bit.... My last van had 31" BFGs (not an Astro) and I had to replace 2 of them with some odd brand on an emergency basis, and those tires were so much smaller than the BFGs, they didn't even look like the same size - easily 1 inch smaller diameter and tread width!

Thanks again for the info...
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Re: Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Postby ericlee303 [OP] » June 4th 2013, 3:52pm

No problem!

When I get a chance I'll take a closeup of the wheel horizontal centerline (largest diameter, worst case for bumper interference) vs the bumper to give others a better idea of how much trimming might be required.

I think with my lift I could do a "smaller" 245.70 with minor trimming. Problem is used 245 are harder and harder to find, since OEM is now typically 17" and larger.

And yeah it's wierd how same size tires vary so much. It's more visually noticeable with low profile tires, I bought some Potenza 760 Sport new for the front of one of my G35, and the front tire was nociteably larger than the rears and that really bothered me.
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Re: Running 235 70 16 with no rubbing issues

Postby gavio » June 4th 2013, 4:57pm

Yeah, I hear ya about hard to find tires.... on my last van (a G20) I ordered 16" rims for it, so I could have a common tire size that would be easy to find - I pretty much always buy used tires..... Now I'm back to weird sizes again..... Maybe someday I'll have the dough to lift it 4" and run 245-75s again......

When those smaller tires got put on my old van, they put them on the rear - I couldn't believe they let it out the door that way, it was just so WRONG..... I switched 'em later but ended up glad they were cheap tires that wore out quickly :D
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