Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 6th 2020, 8:25pm

Mother of god. I pulled the transmission pan off and there's a goddam ball bearing stuck to the magnet. I think I would have been less freaked out if it were a human finger I found in there.

So...any theories? How the hell is it still running? I was changing the fluid and filter in the hope that it will help smooth the changes. But a bearing missing a BB is far more serious than I anticipated. What should I do?
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 6th 2020, 8:32pm

The BB seems ok. Doesn't look chewed up at all.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Astro Pop » May 6th 2020, 8:52pm

Also could be BB from valve body. More likely than bearing falling apart. Could be reason for bad shift? Valve body is easy to remove and repair.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 6th 2020, 8:56pm

That sounds promising. For now I'll have to put it back together. Unless someone can suggest which new part I would need for the valve body. I could try to get it today.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Astro Pop » May 6th 2020, 9:02pm

Check Utube for valve body removal and then here are the locations:
I'm sure a stop at a local trans shop would get you a check ball at no charge...if they're cool. BUT how did it get loose from channel????
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Mmusicman » May 6th 2020, 9:37pm

Is this the first time opening it?
Maybe lost part from previous build?
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 6th 2020, 9:48pm

No idea how it got loose. I bought the vehicle (03 RWD) with 185k Kms on it and it's now at 202k. I am not sure if it's ever been serviced. The gasket is seized on horribly and I'm doing my best to get it off cleanly. A trip to a tranny shop may be needed. But I don't have $ for a repair so I may end up trying to fix this problem too.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Sparkydog » May 6th 2020, 10:23pm

Like other guys are saying you may not be in as serious of trouble as the initial sight of a loose part would make you think. If the trans is working OK and all you were doing is an oil/filter change then maybe just keep the ball and put everything back and call it good for now.

But if you DO decide to investigate your valve body but you don't have funds for a rebuild kit maybe you can search to see if the rebuild kit instructions are available online and just use them as disassembly/reassembly instructions.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby augidog » May 6th 2020, 10:25pm

My first thought was check ball as well. Either that or someone played a really mean random prank.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Leeann_93 » May 6th 2020, 11:37pm

Definitely a check ball from the valve body. I don't see how it could have gotten loose, unless the valve body was serviced before you bought it and someone lost a check ball that ended up in the pan. Might not actually be missing from the valve body, if that's the case (they can get loose while you're handling the valve body).

For the baked-on gasket, all you can do is be VERY careful with a stiff scraper - and have lots of patience. It will go slowly. If you go too fast, you can gouge the sealing surface - so don't.


If it's shifting normally and going into all gears and lockup properly, it might not be a problem. It might just be that the magnet did its job.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 6th 2020, 11:42pm

Good call. Let's hope it's that. If it were a prank then cudos to the pranker for their patience. Like my buddy who hid my alarm clock and it went off at 3am. I waited 10 years to tell him his prank worked :)

Cleaned the pan with a Brillo, a plastic scraper, and a tonne of brake cleaner. Took 2 hours. Going to try putting it back together.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 7th 2020, 12:03am

I'm stuck. Can't get the old gasket that goes around the filter out if the transmission. Haynes says use your finger. Video on YouTube said use a screwdriver. I'm not having any luck. It's in too tight. Any trick to this ?
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Leeann_93 » May 7th 2020, 12:12am

Is it still in good shape? If so, leave it.

If you've boogered it up, you need to use a pick - a 45° 90° pick.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 7th 2020, 12:41am

The seal seems ok. I tried to pry it out with no luck. YouTube guy hammered a pick in to get it out . I wasn't confident with that. I compared it to the new one and it feels the same. If I scratched it with the screwdriver it was minor I think.
I was going to tighten the valve body bolts (96 inch pounds) but my torque wrench seems too crude. I've had enough heart attacks for one day so I'm going to try putting it together.
New filter fits in snugly but sits out a little from the valve body. Is that normal ?
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 7th 2020, 2:18am

It's all back together. Adding fluid.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Astro Pop » May 7th 2020, 3:11am

Good to hear. Let us know how it shifts now.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 7th 2020, 3:55am

The plot thickens. I filled the reservoir with what I thought was a reasonable amount less than what I took out if it. But I may have misjudged that and it's possible I put too much in. I can't tell yet because the entire dipstick comes out red, so it hasn't all run down into the pan yet.
But also, there was a puddle of fluid under where the bell housing meets the engine. No leak from the pan at all.
What happens when it's overfilled? Will it come out somehow? Do I need to take the pan off again?
How long does it normally take for the fluid to settle so you can judge how full it is?
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Astro Pop » May 7th 2020, 5:04am

About 20 minutes should be enough time for the dipstick to clear. If still too much fluid is showing just loosen a few bolts around the pan, let some fluid drain. I'd drain alot out. Tighten back up and check again. If you have to then add some back just about a pint to a quart at a time and check levels as you go.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby AngryPunk [OP] » May 7th 2020, 7:16am

Thanks. It looked ok so I did the start and then run through the gears. It seemed ok. Then I waited to see the new level but it wasn't clear still. I'll let it sit tonight and check in the morning.
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Re: Arrgggghh!!! My transmission!!! :(

Postby Mmusicman » May 7th 2020, 3:07pm

AngryPunk wrote: I waited to see the new level but it wasn't clear still. I'll let it sit tonight and check in the morning..

I assume you know to check it warm and running?
No need to "let it sit"

Usually the only time you might need to wait, is immediately after you've poured fluid down the dipstick tube, making it hard to get a clean reading. Usually a few minutes of wait after filling, is adequate.
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