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What is this? Why is it in my oil pan?

PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 2:11pm
by SoccerMom4x4
Rebuilt my 4.3 and before I drop it back in I’m cleaning up the subframe/transmission. Decided I may as well drop the oil pan so I can replace the filter and weld in a drain plug so, you know, I can actually drain the pan.... upon dropping the oil pan I found this inside.So as the title states, what is this!? And why is it in my oil pan?? It feels gooey and stuck to the bottom almost like it was put there not just floating around then settled.

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PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 2:12pm
by SoccerMom4x4
Close up

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PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 2:28pm
by dcsleeper
It's a magnet, to collect garbage.

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PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 2:39pm
by SoccerMom4x4
10-4. Thanks!

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PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 3:12pm
by markmitch
Get some brake clean and clean the whole pan real good, that's the transmission pan not the engine oil pan though. While you have that off replace the trans filter and make sure you get the old o ring seal out of the transmission.

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PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 4:44pm
by Mmusicman
GOOD NEWS! You pan looks GREAT!
Very little debris on your magnet is a very good thing! :D

When I changed my filter.. (for some reason I don't recall) I didn't get the old seal out.
But my new filter fit tight in the old seal.
Once you attempt to remove it however, you are committed!

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PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 4:53pm
by Sparkydog
Mmusicman wrote:GOOD NEWS! You pan looks GREAT!
Very little debris on your magnet is a very good thing! :D

When I changed my filter.. (for some reason I don't recall) I didn't get the old seal out.
But my new filter fit tight in the old seal.
Once you attempt to remove it however, you are committed!


^^^ This. In my opinion, if pulling the old filter down out of the trans is difficult then your O ring seal is nice and tight and there is no need to try and replace it. And when you shove the new filter into the old seal and it's a firm shove it is another indication that things are just fine with the old O ring.

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PostPosted: June 11th 2020, 8:16pm
by SoccerMom4x4
Excellent news! I definitely plan on giving it a good scrub and weld on a nut on the outside for a drain plug. Coming to the end of this rebuild, hope it all works out :banana: :banana: thanks for the help

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PostPosted: June 12th 2020, 12:21am
by Mmusicman
I just pump the pan mostly empty by pulling a steel line (to the trans cooler) and have the trans naturally pump the pan empty. Takes about 20 seconds. Steel line unhooks easily... hook to rubber hose and pump into a bucket. Works well.

But adding a drain plug is really the best option.

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PostPosted: June 12th 2020, 12:27am
by sixsix
Just amazing and very very telling nowadays.
Rebuilt engine - did not know of magnets in pans.
Cool, but interesting, nonetheless.

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PostPosted: June 12th 2020, 2:41am
by SoccerMom4x4
Telling about what?

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PostPosted: June 12th 2020, 12:28pm
by sixsix
Interesting Skillsets, is all.
Like prog'g. a CNC Lathe, w/o Machining Knowledge.

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PostPosted: June 12th 2020, 2:51pm
by SoccerMom4x4
Nut welded in, time to see if it passes the paper towel test

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PostPosted: June 12th 2020, 3:16pm
by sixsix
Nice!! Welding is a Skill Set that I can only dream of.
Wishing I had learned at a young age...

And speaking of your nice looking welded plug set up...
- there are Magnetic Plug themselves.
Little magnet sticks up / into the oil.
Easy to see if there is abnormal metal shavings w/o a lab analysis.
They are common in machine tools, power transmission & hyd. systems.
etc, etc.

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PostPosted: June 12th 2020, 4:13pm
by SoccerMom4x4
Never too late to learn! I took a night class welding at the local community college, it’s loads of fun and just like anything......the more you practice.... The magnetic plug you speak of is exactly what’s going in that there nut, $2 at the AutoZone (aka- hell on earth)

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PostPosted: June 13th 2020, 12:59am
by Leeann_93
Drain plugs on transmission pans are the bomb. They should come from the factory that way. I add one to every vehicle I drop the pan on - our RV, the Jeep, the '99, the '02, the '05 will get it as soon as I drop that pan...which will be soon.

Your pan looks really good. Very little fuzz, no chunks, fluid doesn't look awful.