Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby fozzy19 [OP] » December 1st 2008, 6:01am

I have 1997 Safari and it will not shift into 3rd gear. I have had the transmission replaced with a used transmission and the same thing is happening, it will not shift into 3rd gear. I have had the neutral/safety switch replaced and that has not done anything. My latest recommendation is to have the computer reset to see if that helps. Any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby zombie{[six]} » December 1st 2008, 6:31am

unplug the battery for 10 seconds and touch the two terminals together for another 10. should reset the comp
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby astro355 » December 1st 2008, 10:13am

Yes, reset the computer and let us know what happens next. The neutral safety switch only affects when you can start the van, which is only park and neutral. It prevents the van from being started while its in a forward or reverse gear.

Was there any other oddities that occurred with the original transmission? Or the van for that matter?
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby Matrixx » December 1st 2008, 4:52pm

Hi ozzy19
Same problem with 2 different transmissions? Hmm, If the above advice doesn't cure it, then might I suggest you check the harness that leads to the transmission. I just made a post about this in another thread which is easy enough to check.
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The computer needs a clear signal to communicate on all wires that hook into the transmission. This particular plug-in gets a lot of abuse from dirt and moisture due to it's location (Drivers side rail). Hope this helps. Please keep us updated, Thanks.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby zombie{[six]} » December 1st 2008, 5:13pm

i would say if all else fail maybe check the shifter linkage ?.?
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby astro355 » December 1st 2008, 6:10pm

Matrixx wrote:Hi ozzy19
Same problem with 2 different transmissions? Hmm, If the above advice doesn't cure it, then might I suggest you check the harness that leads to the transmission. I just made a post about this in another thread which is easy enough to check.
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The computer needs a clear signal to communicate on all wires that hook into the transmission. This particular plug-in gets a lot of abuse from dirt and moisture due to it's location (Drivers side rail). Hope this helps. Please keep us updated, Thanks.


Yes, corrosion sucks. I would love to have a number of how much money was spent replacing parts that didn't need to be replaced just because there was corrosion in the connectors. Has the OP reest the computer yet?

And no, its not going to be the shifter linkage.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby fozzy19 [OP] » December 1st 2008, 6:42pm

Thanks for all the feedback. I am currently at work and will be resetting the computer once I get home today, I will keep you all posted. One question I had about this plug/harness that goes from the computer to the transmission, can you replace this plug/harness?

Thanks again to everyone!
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby astro355 » December 1st 2008, 6:46pm

You could put you would be replacing the entire engine harness and they are very expense. Wires don't usually fail, unless they is obvious damage such as being pinched or overheated for extended periods of times. Problems related are at the connectors, where two pieces of metal touch. That's where you would find any corrosion.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby gtkane » December 1st 2008, 7:37pm

There isn't any outside condition with the 4l60e trans that causes loss of third gear only. Are you sure it's third that you are missing?
Electrical problems can give you first gear only, first and fourth only, or second and third gears only.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby astro355 » December 1st 2008, 7:58pm

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It is easy to confuse first and second gears. For that matter, are you sure they replaced the transmission?
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby fozzy19 [OP] » December 1st 2008, 9:23pm

I am sure that the tranmission was replaced and I'm sure that I have 1st and 2nd gear. It will not shift from 2nd gear to 3rd gear while in over drive. Furthermore, when I manually shift to third gear it does the same thing as it does when I am in overdrive. I guess the real question for me is if I try to reset the computer and it still doesn't shift from 2nd to 3rd gear, what woulb be the next step?
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby astro355 » December 1st 2008, 10:10pm

What gtkane means is that you maybe starting in 2nd gear and are never in 1st. I know, you would assume the gear that you start in is first but it could be starting in 2nd.

Hoes is your acceleration from a dead stop? A tach would be a great value right now.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby fozzy19 [OP] » December 1st 2008, 10:30pm

My acceleration is normal. I usually manually shift from 1st to 2nd and then I'll try to manually shift into 3rd gear but the transmission just goes to neutral and rev way up.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby astro355 » December 1st 2008, 10:34pm

Can you take a picture of the linkage to the trans (under the van)? Maybe you ran something over? I just it hard to believe that you would have two different transmissions that do the same thing when you are manually shifting them. Its possibly but not very likely.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby fozzy19 [OP] » December 2nd 2008, 5:18pm

I tried to followed the instructions to reset the computer. Took it for a drive and no change. I have taken it to a local trans shop for a free diagnosis, I'll keep you all posted.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby fozzy19 [OP] » December 2nd 2008, 8:52pm

I got a call from the the guy at the trans shop and he says the transmission is junk and needs to be replaced. Before I go through this, are there any other things I should look at.
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Re: Transmission won't shift into 3rd gear

Postby astro355 » December 3rd 2008, 1:54am

Well, I hope you were unlucky enough to have two bad transmission and that replacing it again will solve the problem. Did you take it to the same shop that replaced the transmission the last time?
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