Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby Black89cs » October 5th 2010, 2:08am

I'll have to keep this thread in mind as my alternator is whining... I'll likely run it til it dies, but yeah, getting close methinks.
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby DDD » October 11th 2010, 4:46pm

Thanks for the great post and pictures, my son and I replaced the alternator,serpentine belt and belt tension pulley on his 97 Astro last week, all went well, we appreciate your help, I went over your steps several times before starting the job, would have taken a lot longer without it.

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby Lumpy » October 26th 2010, 2:45pm

I see some slightly incorrect terminology here as well as in manufacturer's ads
when it comes to alternator output.

Alt's don't really "output 100 amps at idle". By themselves, they don't "output" amperage at any speed.
Amperage is a function of the load. The world's largest alternator, at any speed,
into a load that is "asking for" (drawing) ONE amp will output one amp, no more.

Better termininology would be "Is capable of supplying 100A at idle", rather than
"outputs 100A at idle".

A bigger alternator (amperage rating) may be beefier built than the smaller alt.
But unless you have added some kind of extra load to the electrical system, a bigger
alt will output the same current (amps) as the smaller one.

Alternators output 12 VOLTS (or 13.8 or 14.5 or whatever) constantly. They supply
AMPS to whatever extent the load requires.

E=IR


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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby astroturf » October 26th 2010, 4:33pm

Great Explanation Lumpy

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby 94 Van Guy » October 26th 2010, 6:38pm

I have noticed on some forms you fill out, it asks you to print your name. Sorry I forgot my printing press. (I usually just letter my name in, instead)

How did we, speaking collectively, stray from using correct English. I sat in on an English class and the teacher used the word "can" instead of "may" in an instruction to the class for an answer. Everyone in the class could speak, the teacher was giving permission to the class to speak.

I'm sure there are many more examples of incorrect wording, but it shouldn't come from the English teacher.

Go figure...

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby Astroclyde » October 26th 2010, 7:00pm

94 Van Guy wrote:I have noticed on some forms you fill out, it asks you to print your name. Sorry I forgot my printing press. (I usually just letter my name in, instead)

How did we, speaking collectively, stray from using correct English. I sat in on an English class and the teacher used the word "can" instead of "may" in an instruction to the class for an answer. Everyone in the class could speak, the teacher was giving permission to the class to speak.

I'm sure there are many more examples of incorrect wording, but it shouldn't come from the English teacher.

Go figure...

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This "can" and "may" thing is a really insufferable bit of pedantry, commonly cited by people who don't understand actual issues of language mechanics. Also, I'm not fond of the doctrine of preventing language evolution - why don't you read some Chaucer and see just how much English has changed over the past few centuries?

Fyi, isn't the following sentence: How did we, speaking collectively, stray from using correct English. supposed to be a question? Whuh oh! and you follow it up with a triple preposition in the next sentence: "in an instruction to the class for an answer" Not my idea of elegance. Then, right after that: I'm sure there are many more examples of incorrect wording, but it shouldn't come from the English teacher. What's the antecedent of "it"? It's not supposed to be "incorrect wording", FYI. "They," referring to examples, would be correct.

To go back to an old cliche, those who live in glass internets shouldn't throw stones. C
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby 94 Van Guy » October 26th 2010, 7:03pm

Astroclyde wrote:
94 Van Guy wrote:I have noticed on some forms you fill out, it asks you to print your name. Sorry I forgot my printing press. (I usually just letter my name in, instead)

How did we, speaking collectively, stray from using correct English. I sat in on an English class and the teacher used the word "can" instead of "may" in an instruction to the class for an answer. Everyone in the class could speak, the teacher was giving permission to the class to speak.

I'm sure there are many more examples of incorrect wording, but it shouldn't come from the English teacher.

Go figure...

Keith


This "can" and "may" thing is a really insufferable bit of pedantry, commonly cited by people who don't understand actual issues of language mechanics. Also, I'm not fond of the doctrine of preventing language evolution - why don't you read some Chaucer and see just how much English has changed over the past few centuries?

Fyi, isn't the following sentence: How did we, speaking collectively, stray from using correct English. supposed to be a question? Whuh oh! and you follow it up with a triple preposition in the next sentence: "in an instruction to the class for an answer" Not my idea of elegance. Then, right after that: I'm sure there are many more examples of incorrect wording, but it shouldn't come from the English teacher. What's the antecedent of "it"? It's not supposed to be "incorrect wording", FYI. "They," referring to examples, would be correct.

To go back to an old cliche, those who live in glass internets shouldn't throw stones. C

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby Astroclyde » October 26th 2010, 7:13pm

Lumpy wrote:I see some slightly incorrect terminology here as well as in manufacturer's ads
when it comes to alternator output.

Alt's don't really "output 100 amps at idle". By themselves, they don't "output" amperage at any speed.
Amperage is a function of the load. The world's largest alternator, at any speed,
into a load that is "asking for" (drawing) ONE amp will output one amp, no more.

Better termininology would be "Is capable of supplying 100A at idle", rather than
"outputs 100A at idle".

A bigger alternator (amperage rating) may be beefier built than the smaller alt.
But unless you have added some kind of extra load to the electrical system, a bigger
alt will output the same current (amps) as the smaller one.

Alternators output 12 VOLTS (or 13.8 or 14.5 or whatever) constantly. They supply
AMPS to whatever extent the load requires.

E=IR


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Kirchoff's current law FTW. well said.
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby astroturf » October 26th 2010, 7:25pm

I can be... I may be... Ah heck I am...

Confused.

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby tedanderson » October 26th 2010, 7:25pm

Lumpy wrote:Alt's don't really "output 100 amps at idle". By themselves, they don't "output" amperage at any speed.
Amperage is a function of the load. The world's largest alternator, at any speed,
into a load that is "asking for" (drawing) ONE amp will output one amp, no more.

Better termininology would be "Is capable of supplying 100A at idle", rather than
"outputs 100A at idle".

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby tedanderson » October 26th 2010, 7:26pm

Lumpy wrote:Alt's don't really "output 100 amps at idle". By themselves, they don't "output" amperage at any speed.
Amperage is a function of the load. The world's largest alternator, at any speed,
into a load that is "asking for" (drawing) ONE amp will output one amp, no more.

Better termininology would be "Is capable of supplying 100A at idle", rather than
"outputs 100A at idle".

:goodpost:
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby tealastro » November 24th 2010, 3:23am

Replaced the alternator on my 2k today. Removed it last night. The astro/safari site is invaluable. At first I struggled trying to removed the unit from the bracket and thought I better check with this site to see if there was another bracket in the rear I couldn't see. 10 minutes later I had the alt in my hands. Too late for the parts store last night, had a new one in before noon today....about 30 minutes to install.

Lots of good info here.....Thanks, especially for the pictures.

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby JayDubya » November 24th 2010, 5:48am

Yeah, they like pichures here.
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby thegreenmachine » November 29th 2010, 4:51am

yeah pics are cool. They will help a lot when i do my alt tomorrow!!!! They squeal became a groan, and to quote someone else post "sounded like it was screaming :screaming: ck you".

But hey 174,000 out of the origanal, well, kinda saw that coming......
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby txturbo » May 9th 2011, 12:43pm

This job is way easier with the fan shroud removed. The shroud is very easy to take off. In fact....any repair is way easier if you take the shroud off.
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby RECox286 » May 9th 2011, 11:25pm

Hey, tomorrow I've got to drop the fuel tank. Think I should remove the shroud first to make the job any easier ?

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby chevy57bert » May 10th 2011, 5:32am

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby 94 Van Guy » May 10th 2011, 7:53pm

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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

Postby exoticautodetai » May 10th 2011, 9:56pm

So replacing an alternator on a 95 astro with a AD244 alternator is a good idea?
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Re: Alternator Removal/Replacement How-To (2003 Astro)

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New to this forum, thought it was a very similar but different one at first, so I end up using both.

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