Hooking up Tach

Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby The Drummer » March 15th 2021, 6:49pm

There is some good info here : https://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=62402

Here is where i placed mine , i trimed a little in the bezel if i recall ,but it was a good spot ,at least for me it was .

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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby sixsix » March 16th 2021, 9:03pm

Mmusicman wrote:This connection will not fail.
Like I said... this is just how I do it.
Use whatever method works for you.
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About the only thing I can add to that is:

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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby vangogo » March 16th 2021, 9:13pm

Nothing wrong with your idea and tach selection, but as an option to consider, I thought I would mention what I went with for a tach...an UltraGauge. I have it programmed so that the tach feature is always on my main screen. Again, nothing wrong with the tach you are installing, just thought I would mention another option...you can see I mounted it by the CD player.Image
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby 02GMC » March 17th 2021, 4:09am

Just a suggestion regarding tach etc. I bought a ScanGuage a few years back, cable connects to OBD port, guage fits nicely in tray above console for aux CD player. Can monitor 4 functions at any given time. Set mine to tach, trans temp, water temp and volts. Last two are redundant but I got it for the tach and trans temp (which is already monitored by the ECM/PCM anyway on my 2002).
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Mmusicman » March 17th 2021, 6:18pm

sixsix wrote:About the only thing I can add to that is:
If I had a nice selection of shrink wraps like this and the real cheap heat gun ( or soldering iron ), I would have had a sleeve of appropriate size on the wire ready to shrink... just before the tie wrap.

YOU ARE SO CORRECT!!!
And yes, a soldering iron will also work if you don't have a heat-gun handy.
(just use the soldering iron as heat a little further away from the tip)

I was SO focused on the "tape and tie-wrap" solution.. I didn't even think of heat-shrink!
Yes this is always preferred if possible. Unfortunately, if you don't intend to cut the factory wire to wrap your new wire around, then there won't likely be any open-ended place to "slide" the heat-shrink over. I often prefer NOT to cut factory wiring.

None the less, always prefer heat-shrink if possible.
If not.. tape and tie-wrap is your next best solution. :D

Loom is always a nice extra touch, and offers some degree of extra wire-safety too.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Ken2.7 [OP] » March 17th 2021, 6:41pm

vangogo wrote:Nothing wrong with your idea and tach selection, but as an option to consider, I thought I would mention what I went with for a tach...an UltraGauge. I have it programmed so that the tach feature is always on my main screen. Again, nothing wrong with the tach you are installing, just thought I would mention another option...you can see I mounted it by the CD player.Image


I looked at the UltraGauge and like what I see. You said you keep the Tach feature on so I assume you don't have to program it each time you start the engine. Is the RPM readout by itself or are there multiple other categories displayed at the same time? I noticed you can't easily unplug and take it with you without snaking the cable back under the dash. Easy removal would be a nice feature for them to add. Thanks for mentioning the tach alternative.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby vangogo » March 17th 2021, 10:46pm

Once you select the features on the readout, it stays that way, you can change them at any time and there are 3 screens you can program. The RPM is displayed with multiple other categories, I also have engine temp, engine load, tps, and mpg's on my main screen.
You do have to snake the cable back under the dash if you ever want to remove it. I originally had it mounted near the lower portion of the vent like you are considering, but found the shifter was always blocking the view a bit. I may mount the gauge higher someday, maybe try out a spot near the pillar. It doesn't have the cool factor of an old school tach, but it is pretty useful overall.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Ken2.7 [OP] » March 18th 2021, 2:22am

I hate cutting into my dash so I’m not seeing a cool factor with the Tach. Also I hadn’t thought about the shift lever position and it would be nice to have a digital read on temperature.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby vangogo » March 18th 2021, 2:52am

cool factor is just me thinking of my old muscle cars days, been a while since I had any car that would pull to 7 grand. The temp on the UltraGauge seems more accurate than the factory gauge on the dash, I can watch the computer switch from open loop at 130 degrees, and I can watch the temp drop as the thermostat opens around 200 degrees.
I saw 02GMC posted about his scan gauge...Ive had my ultragauge for over 10 years with no problems, I dont know which one is the best, Im sure theres several brands available, so research and shop around.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Ken2.7 [OP] » March 20th 2021, 4:02am

I’ve been reading up on OBD scanners and decided that’s the way I want to go however now that I’m ready put the doghouse on the odometer, gear selector light, and the fuel gauge aren’t working. I’ve checked connectors and fuses but no luck. The van starts and runs fine so I’m trying to decide what’s next. Maybe go by a local parts store and check for codes. Ideas?
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Ken2.7 [OP] » April 4th 2021, 2:57am

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I’ll update my Tach post for anyone searching in the future for ideas. The features that sold me on the Konnwei ($55) was the ability to disconnect it easily, a digital and graphic RPM readout, and a digital coolant temperature reading. It has other features which I haven’t figured out yet and the instructions aren’t too good.
I drilled a hole behind the emergency release lever and ran my cable up to a location where the tach can easily be seen through the steering wheel and yet is high enough I don’t hit it with my knees. The tach is attached to sheet metal I cut to slip between the dash and the lower dash panel. Velcro holds the tach when I flip it back vertical.
I appreciate the help and ideas I got from everyone. Thx.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby AstroWill » April 4th 2021, 3:32am

Looks good Ken!

I was looking at those on alibaba and was wondering if they showed the transmission temperature, does yours show the trans temp? Yours is this one https://amzn.to/3wp66hU and I was looking at the same but named different: https://amzn.to/39Hh7Bj

If so, they are a pretty good deal for the price, was about $20 cheaper on alibaba.

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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Ken2.7 [OP] » April 4th 2021, 3:55am

I don’t think it shows transmission temp. but it’s been trial and error to figure out what I have so far.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby The Drummer » April 4th 2021, 8:27am

Torque pro app will show you trans temp ,it did on my van ,as for the bezel i had a perfect spare from the jy so..... ,i think it still hanging on the shed s wall . if you want an analog gauge for the trans there is a place on the trans for just that ,and from the trans to dog house its pretty easy to hook up to . i do beleive that the light for the gear selector and odo are on the same fuse ,its one of the yellow wires thats in the radio harness , i did blow that fuse when i cut the eom radio plug :) .
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby silverastro » June 8th 2021, 11:31pm

So to get a clearer picture on wiring up a tachometer
is it the white wire or white with black tracer or is it the purple / white tracer.
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby The Drummer » June 8th 2021, 11:44pm

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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Mmusicman » June 9th 2021, 2:46pm

Since this is a thread about tach's..
I figured I'd share a quick video of mine in action (nothing crazy)..

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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby silverastro » June 9th 2021, 6:51pm

The Drummer wrote:Image.


sorry should have said my astro is a gen 2 1996
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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby DriveDog » June 10th 2021, 2:24pm

A direct connection on exterior of transmission for temp sensor output?

Sorry if I missed something earlier. 2003 RWD here.

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Re: Hooking up Tach

Postby Ken2.7 [OP] » June 18th 2021, 10:17pm

Since I started this post and others may find it if searching for a tach I thought I should update that the Chinese made KW206 failed in less than a month. It now only shows the last two digits of the RPM so I have no idea how fast the engine is running. $50 down the drain so hopefully someone won’t buy one too. I took the picture below while cruising at 65 and the RPM is anybody’s guess as long as it ends in 73.
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