obd II pinout

obd II pinout

Postby $uperJoe [OP] » May 24th 2010, 8:20pm

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this is what i found at ls1 tech and was wondering if this is correct for 1996 sfi 5.7L as well.
also if 4 and 5 are grounds are they from different circuits? one is black and one is black with white
there are 4 other wires in mine that are not pictured
8.....black/white...?
9.....tan.............airbag
12....tan/white.....?
14....green..........stereo

what are these other 4 wires for and do i need them?
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby chevy57bert » May 24th 2010, 8:55pm

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Re: obd II pinout

Postby $uperJoe [OP] » May 24th 2010, 8:57pm

im confused as to what those values are bert. do you have any more info on them?
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby chevy57bert » May 24th 2010, 9:01pm

$uperJoe wrote:im confused as to what those values are bert. do you have any more info on them?


Life is Confusing :rofl:

I try to get info about those colors..

in this PDF there are 7 wires standard. # 2 4 5 7 10 15 16
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby chevy57bert » May 24th 2010, 10:07pm

97 TJ with a 2003 5.3L out of a full size Chevy truck.

Pin 3- Purple
Pin 4- Black w/ Blue stripe
Pin 5- Black w/ Tan stripe
Pin 6- Green
Pin 7- Pink
Pin 10- White w/ Black stripe
Pin 16- Pink w/ While stripe

The industry standard 7 pins are 2,4,5,7,10 and 16.
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby webcat » May 24th 2010, 11:00pm

Just last night i was looking for the same thing but did'nt find anything.
I have a FSM coming in the mail , when it gets here i'll let you know what i find out.
I was also wondering how this ALDL ties in to the rest of the schematic , i'm making a custom schematic and the only thing i cant figure out is how the ALDL ties in and the single black wire goes where on the transmission?
After i get this schematic done i'll be able to make really cheap and simple engine wiring harnesses.
Sorry for taking this off topic but thought you'd be interested.
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby chevy57bert » May 25th 2010, 12:16am

Just thinking WebCat..
You have a black wire (Black is ground wire)
Your transmission wiring is done. maybe this is the ground wire that goes to the trans ????
( I not in transmissions )
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby $uperJoe [OP] » May 25th 2010, 12:21am

i dont think its that far off topic. as i can tell from my notes i have and the wires i cut today the black solid on 4 is a chassis ground and black and white on 5 the signal ground is the one that ties into trans on the plug by the shift lever. its wire D in plug 1(top). it is also the wire that connects in the front right side of the engine. i dont know why they are different but i will hook them both up respectively. maybe one is tied to those grounds to eliminate electrical noise
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby webcat » May 25th 2010, 12:23am

chevy57bert wrote:Just thinking WebCat..
You have a black wire (Black is ground wire)
Your transmission wiring is done. maybe this is the ground wire that goes to the trans ????
( I not in transmissions )

You would'nt need a wire though , if the transmission needed grounded you would ground to chassis.
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby chevy57bert » May 25th 2010, 12:26am

Found this.. any use Joe?
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby $uperJoe [OP] » May 25th 2010, 12:26am

no its to send a signal to the digital display dash for gear indicator. not to ground the trans
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby webcat » May 25th 2010, 4:02am

webcat wrote:I have a FSM coming in the mail , when it gets here i'll let you know what i find out.

Just found out they shipped it today and will arrive in 2 thru 9 days , if its got the OBD ll pinout i'll post it .
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby Astroplane » May 25th 2010, 8:14am

"there are 4 other wires in mine that are not pictured
8.....black/white...?
9.....tan.............airbag
12....tan/white.....?
14....green..........stereo"

I have no idea if any of this applies to your situation. Just tossing ideas your way.
The '97 M/L says:
8.....Keyless Entry program enable signal
9.....Serial Data (test with a DMM, should see fluctuating values in the mV range)
12....ABS diagnostic

As far as the two grounds, one is true chassis ground straight from the battery and the other is a 'diagnostic' ground, AKA 'floating' ground, and more accurately a 'resisted' ground. The VCM needs to be able to differentiate between the two to know if there is a problem.
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby Astroplane » May 25th 2010, 8:22am

Also, the first pinout that chevy57bert posted is for a Controller Area Network vehicle.
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby $uperJoe [OP] » May 25th 2010, 3:40pm

no thats good stuff, thanks astroplane. since i eliminated the abs completely that makes sense that i couldnt find where the "12" goes. i forgot that it would have a wire for it.i will eliminate that one.

now mine is set up purple on 2 and that should b the pcm serial data.
is 9 another connection for the same thing?

why would one go to the stereo?
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby Astroplane » May 26th 2010, 7:47am

I had measured all the pins on my DLC a couple of weeks ago in an attempt to update my FSM misprint thread. I just uploaded a video that I have no idea how to link to this thread. I'm not even sure where it ended up. It shows what might be seen on a DMM while probing pins 2 or 9 to ground with key ON. Both pins show similar results when tested. If the meter was on mV range I'm sure it would have been easier to see. All of it measured less than 1V.
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby rev_les » May 26th 2010, 5:57pm

Astroplane wrote:I had measured all the pins on my DLC a couple of weeks ago in an attempt to update my FSM misprint thread. I just uploaded a video that I have no idea how to link to this thread. I'm not even sure where it ended up. It shows what might be seen on a DMM while probing pins 2 or 9 to ground with key ON. Both pins show similar results when tested. If the meter was on mV range I'm sure it would have been easier to see. All of it measured less than 1V.
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby Matrixx » May 26th 2010, 6:44pm

Hi $uperJoe

If your referring to OBD II, then Slot 9 (Tan wire) goes to the SDM (Sensing Diagnostic Module) located under the drivers seat if I'm reading your post correctly. It should enter that SDM plug-in at Slot-5.

Just a heads up here with Slot 2 (Purple wire) if you not alreay aware of it is, somewhere along that line to the PCM, it branches off to the BPMV as well. It stays the same color though (Purple).

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Re: obd II pinout

Postby $uperJoe [OP] » May 26th 2010, 8:15pm

matrixx i didnt know that, well either of those things.

first i guess what is bpmv?
second what does sdm do and do i need it to run?
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Re: obd II pinout

Postby $uperJoe [OP] » May 26th 2010, 9:14pm

found it. brake pressure modulator valve. i dont have that any more. i took all the antilock componets out including that. i used that spot to mount my pcm.

as for the sdm i think it is only pertinent to crash data from airbag deployment. am i wrong in this?

still do i need these things or can i eliminate those wires completely??
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