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bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Coaster [OP] » May 9th 2015, 2:12am

its a lincoln! with MIG!! i waited a long time for this one

i fired it up for the first time today and was able to lay down some mighty nice beads right away. i even grabbed thin metal and that was fine to, and the wire is big, 35 thousandths. ive never been able to weld thin metal before, like 16 gauge. ive had only an arc welder for 20 years, today was my first wire feed experience ever

unfortunately i was only able to see the bead and nothing else with my arc welding helmet. i think that arc welding must be brighter as i can see everything when i do that, but i only saw an orange bead with this mask on.

what kind of welding helmet do you guys recommend for a small wirefeed/mig welder?

i'm hoping to be able to use this on exhaust and body panels etc for the van

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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby 97cargocrawler » May 9th 2015, 2:31am

Nice welder. You are arc welding. Especially because I don't see any tank connected (MIG = Metal, Inert Gas or even better known as GMAW Gas Metal Arc Welding), but even still it's arc welding if you're using electricity.

Use the same mask you would for stick arc welding. An autodarkening helmet with variable control for 9-12 is most common.

Pix of the beads?!
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Leeann_93 » May 9th 2015, 2:53am

Sweet! I have an Eastwood but a Lincoln would've been my first choice.

Go to your local welding supply house and get set up with an argon bottle and the appropriate hardware.
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Coaster [OP] » May 9th 2015, 3:10am

you're right, its still an arc welder. its funny how jargon changes around the country isnt it, like different words change dependent on your location.

my other welder is a STICK welder which i guess around here we call an arc welder. when i stick weld with my helmet on i can see the joint, the work, the stick etc. i dont know how dark my visor is on that one but its really dark, old and not auto darkening.

yes its setup as flux core wire right now, but i plan to get the mig setup. i bought it because it had the provisions for that.

so far i really like it!!

what do you think of this helmet? http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770753-Var ... B00BJ2BUBQ
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Lumpy » May 9th 2015, 5:43am

I just bought a new helmet. Pics and links in the "Show Us Your Tools" thread. Hunert bucks from Amazing Amazon. Made in JAPAN, not China.


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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby 97cargocrawler » May 9th 2015, 6:01am

100% Argon is great for welding aluminum but I suggest a mix for steel. Common is 75/25 Argon/CO2, more expensive is 90/10. I like the mix, arc seems hotter. Also spring for the 60cu/ft cylinder if you can because running out in the middle of a project blows. Always happens on a weekend. Good gloves are expensive and worth every penny. If you feel heat in your boot get it off ASAP or molten blobs of steel will soon become a part of your inner self.
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Coaster [OP] » May 9th 2015, 2:34pm

do you lease your tank? i looked into this and around here you can buy those itty bitty yellow bottles at the box store or lease a real tank. i cant find any other alternatives. i'm really excited about this as i had to put my spare tire mount on hold due to not being able to effectively stick weld it together. its just borderline to detailed of work for me to do with a stick. i'm sure an expert could do it but not me.

i'm going to spend some time getting used to the flux core wire before i get the gas though. i read a housand pages on wire feed welders and everyones frustration with them timing out/jamming/sticking etc etc but the lincoln just goes and doesnt stick. i havent timed it out yet and i did a ten second pass to see what would happen.
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Lumpy » May 9th 2015, 2:43pm

My FLWS (Friendly Local Welding Store) charges 26 dollars to exchange a 60 gal bottle of 75/25 gas. The initial deposit on the bottle is 25 bucks. So in other words, 51 dollars gets you started. 26 dollars gets you "refilled" (exchanged) every 3 hours of elapsed weld bead time.

EDIT: Replace "60 gal" above with "60 cu/ft"

The stuff at my FLWS is less expensive than anywhere else, including Lowes, HDepot and even HFreight. MIG pliers, helmet lens covers, MIG wire (and it's US Made, unlike the wire at the other three).

Plus the welding candy store has all kinds of groovy stuff like clamps, weld on hinges, gloves and caps and a whole rack of gorgeous (and some expensive) welders sitting there like Corvettes on the showroom floor.

You're probably already aware and there, but if you're flux core welding, be sure the electrodes are set for GROUND CLAMP = POSITIVE, GUN TIP = NEGATIVE. For GMAW (gas) it's the reverse.


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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Coaster [OP] » May 9th 2015, 2:48pm

wow those are great prices lumpy. thats a no brainer right there! i'll keep looking around here for what will work best.

great thing about lincoln is the instructions are right on the inner lid! lol so the ground is setup for flux core right now.

it says the smallest flux core i can use is 35 thousandths but the solid wire goes down to around 23 i think.
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Leeann_93 » May 9th 2015, 3:04pm

Eastwood has the same instructions in the same place.

Our local welding supply store has the same goodies at the same prices - and they have knowledgeable guys that'll get you the right setup for any job.
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Lumpy » May 9th 2015, 3:11pm

023/024 is really small. It's probably what the auto body sheet metal guys use. But it's a little touchy to get to feed well. Tends to want to bird's nest up in the machine. 030 is just about ideal for most everything we'd ever do and it can even to thin stuff like sheet metal if needed. Feeds easier, less ball-up birds-nest.

And as Leeann (check spelling... :rockon: ) the welding store guys, and even the other customers, are a wealth of knowledge. If something isn't working for me, I ask those guys and they'll probably have experience the same thing and can offer a solution.

I suggest looking at Jody @ WeldingTipsAndTricks.com on YouTube.


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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

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Lumpy wrote:
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby 97cargocrawler » May 10th 2015, 3:42am

WTF??? How do you get a 60cu/ft bottle for $25?!!!! New 20cu/ft bottle anywhere empty cost $80. A 60 usually costs $200 empty. I'm certain Air gas charged me $200 for my 60 plus gas and of course it was the **** used bottle you could imagine.
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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Lumpy » May 10th 2015, 6:10am

97cargocrawler wrote:
WTF??? How do you get a 60cu/ft bottle for $25?



Arizona. A kinder, gentler retail price state.


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Re: bought a new (to me) welder

Postby Gary » May 10th 2015, 7:48am

I've wanted a 220 Mig for a very longtime.The 211 Miler is both 220 and 110 simply by changing the screw on plug.In a single pass it will do up to 3/8's on 110 or 5/8's on 220.It s a gas Mig so I got the biggest bottle you can get and a cart.

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I also got a auto dark Miller elite helmet.

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This way aside from working on my projects,I am fairly confident I can build stuff for the shop instead of having to pay other people to do that for me.
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