Motor-Assisted Bicycle Adventures. anyone?

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Postby sixsix » August 5th 2020, 3:17am

augidog wrote:
Leeann_93 wrote:I wanna see pics of the Gatling guns.
of course you do. I was wondering who'd be first on that one. my money was on sixsix. ...

Good One... but remember - I have had ( bummer - butha' got the truck now ) experienced CC's Van build for about 4 years ... so I was going to sit back and wait on PICS.
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Guys - some great wonderful photos on a subject missing here on the Van forum.
Figures it would be west coast guys ...
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Well, after all... what would Banacek say ?... “It is only a matter of time before armed citizens, waiting or not for the police, take things into their own hands, fire on the rioters for personal and property prot. & end up hunted like dogs.”

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Re: Motor-Assisted Bicycle Adventures. anyone?

Postby augidogaugidog is online! [OP] » August 5th 2020, 6:06am

I'm St. Louis born & half of my life a New England'er. only west coast, specifically PNW, since 2006.

speaking of CC's 2 X 1200W monster. remember when I said you had to pedal and help your small engine or motor?
746 Watts = 1 Horse. with electric, you get all of that instantly, like a variable-speed drill.

I don't think 'Crawler's doing much pedaling :rockon:

after a spring of riding and camping in Washington state, 2010, I hopped a ferry in Bellingham. this is when I met Jimmy from Juneau, he was Chief Mate for the Alaska Marine Highway System, open water ferries. he recently retired as a Captain. we made friends during the 3-day trip, and I helped him build his first "HT" cruiser, like M_a_t_t's, which he had bought all the parts for before we'd ever met. he's built almost a dozen bikes since.

after Juneau, I hopped another ferry to Haines (from my OP) to see Alaskavan. Van was the guy in the rally video with the 90cc 4-stroke recumbent.

arrival in Haines...


I'm going to be blitzing on some really nice pics of Alaska, with and without bikes.
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Postby sixsix » August 5th 2020, 3:39pm

Augi... goodness, how does it get any better than that Panorama w/ the Glacier.
Geez, and I thought WE had seen some neat stuff. Guess I gotta' go start looking.

The Van crossing a little wooden bridge into a meadow at the foot of the Tetons, near Jenny Lake comes to mind.
I wish we had included The Van in quite a few pics, but it was our trans, not the subject of our trip.

I can imagine that it would be 'very different' today. ie - Music's shots of their vans, cars, music and trips including them is so cool.
We had our days - Still be jealous though, right?

And if CC rides and uses that bike, I would be surprised. But I sure wish I was building it, as that would say a lot about my financial means...


And please "Bring on the Blitz". No pics of you smoking tho'...

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Well, after all... what would Banacek say ?... “It is only a matter of time before armed citizens, waiting or not for the police, take things into their own hands, fire on the rioters for personal and property prot. & end up hunted like dogs.”

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when in Juneau, i followed an Alaskan custom by asking Haines if I could bring anything with me that they can't readily get ahold of. Van said he had a friend with a bird who LOVES raw almonds in the shell.
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...well, shoot, buddy, you're no fun.
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Postby sixsix » August 5th 2020, 8:13pm

just sittin' here snickering - as we get our tray on.

Watched The Flight of the Phoenix ( '65 ) w/ the spousal unit - great inspiration on SO many levels and personal stories.

Then I read your post. I had my instincts verified, cool.

and of course, like you, would never promote operating heavy machinery while ...
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Well, after all... what would Banacek say ?... “It is only a matter of time before armed citizens, waiting or not for the police, take things into their own hands, fire on the rioters for personal and property prot. & end up hunted like dogs.”

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sixsix wrote:And if CC rides and uses that bike, I would be surprised. But I sure wish I was building it, as that would say a lot about my financial means...


It's true. I get most of my pleasure from building and not necessarily using. I got caught up in RC rock crawlers in college and now I have about $20K worth of custom aluminum sitting on a shelf unused.. "shelf queens". I do hope that this bike will be a reliable vehicle that I can use though. All of my other vehicles (cars, trucks) are such massive pains in my *** to drive.

If anyone would be interested in seeing endless EBIKE pornography I could start a thread about my build. I have not shared it anywhere else.

I was fortunate to have purchased 90% of the stuff to build 2 ebikes before the pandemic. I have spent a few thousand since becoming furloughed and living on the gov't teet. I noticed some of the Chinese made parts I still needed were quickly vaporizing from the internet. I wanted to get the last bit of parts while I still could. I might NEED this bike because now I can't even afford to fill the tank in my truck!
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97cargocrawler wrote:...I could start a thread about my build. I have not shared it anywhere else.
you know i'd go along for the ride.

which is why I only operate light machinery when...
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onboard the open water ferry "Columbia" bound for Juneau. you can pay for walk-on passage (i paid bicycle fare as well) and tape your tent to the deck, or sleep on the floor in many interior spaces. a 3-day party.

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4 guys, 4 different stories & destinations, one night camping and partying before each going their separate ways.
no "bigfoot" jokes unless you can come up with something original.

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first pic of Sabrina2 in Alaska. i had ridden to downtown Juneau and scored a sack in record time for a stranger, while the other guys shopped burger and beer and setup camp.

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augidog wrote:no "bigfoot" jokes unless you can come up with something original.


One of the few times I read before opening my mouth. Explains the bike dimensions.
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97cargocrawler wrote:Explains the bike dimensions.
for real. the original bike is a 1988 "Miami Bike Supply" 5-spd hybrid cruiser, XL (22") seat tube. but still not enough for me. I was so high up over the rear wheel, it was like riding a unicycle with a front training wheel. a simple cut-n-extend modification made all the difference.

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as initially built. at this point, the learning curve began it's vertical climb, as it immediately began to shake itself to pieces.

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I rode this fairly sturdy version 125 miles down rt 101 from Ocean Park WA to Newport OR, where Dan Morgan aka "I-ride Customs" did the modification. it was quite the ride that day, 10 hours, with logging trucks blasting by mere inches from my left elbow. to my right, a crumbling edge of asphalt & a steep drop to the Pacific Ocean...my first long-distance adventure.

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How tall are you Augidog?
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I'm 6'5"...I make the bike look like a 20" bmx, don't I?
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Yeah, kinda. What MPG do you usually get?
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M_a_t_t wrote:Yeah, kinda. What MPG do you usually get?
the only time I ever paid close attention was travelling fully-loaded using the Tanaka "PureFire" 40cc 2-stroke. my favorite answer back then was "I get a mile per shot glass" keeping in mind the 2.5 shots of oil to every gallon of gas. the side tank held 60 oz of 50:1 and the red can held 1.25 gal of raw gas. I had more than 200 miles onboard when tanked up.

short answer = 125-130 mpg.

the belt-drive with a 4-stroke Robin-Subaru EHO35 could deliver well over 200mpg on a plain bike, but there was no hauling power or top end to speak of.

working with a single-speed drive is a matter of give and take, but the belt-tensioner allows for a 5-minute change of 4 different drive-gears.
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That looks like a MIG welding torch in that dudes hand. Is he welding with no shaded eye protection? I mean even if it was TIG or oxy acetylene you still need filtered eye protection! Looks like he's just wearing clear safety glasses. WTF?

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97cargocrawler wrote:That looks like a MIG welding torch in that dudes hand. Is he welding with no shaded eye protection? I mean even if it was TIG or oxy acetylene you still need filtered eye protection! Looks like he's just wearing clear safety glasses. WTF?
it's been a long time, so I don't recall if he was only tacking, then using protection for the full bead. I know he did a lot of welding in those days, but we've been out of touch for years...maybe he's gone blind? just a joke, of course, I sure hope he isn't blind, but I bet he does see a lot of permanent spots by now. by the by, Dan was already heavily involved in custom bicycle building...image-search iRide Customs to see some of his work.
97cargocrawler wrote:Those are crazy cool mods.
the little in-frame engines do lend themselves to old-school chopper or boardtrack styling, but for full time riding you want comfort and of course stability and reliability. the motorcycle shock and cheap banana seat looked neat, but it wasn't long before it was wobbling, and I converted to a better seat with solid struts. the simple 16" extension, however, is something anyone could do to any triangle frame, and boy what a difference in handling and confidence.
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97cargocrawler wrote:That looks like a MIG welding torch in that dudes hand. Is he welding with no shaded eye protection? I mean even if it was TIG or oxy acetylene you still need filtered eye protection! Looks like he's just wearing clear safety glasses. WTF?

Those are crazy cool mods.

I agree - this is one of those threads - that breaks our concentration from "other things". Thanks, augi.

And the welding thing - I am not a welder ( but I seen it on TV, like everything else, right...? ), but it is not uncommon for them, like augi said about tacking, to:

look, close, tack, look, close, tack... rinse and repeat. He said, "Too much trouble, time and room for error flipping the ***** down each time, then look for where the hell am I and start all over."

"...you ain't a real welder unless you have ruined a few real important things."
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Well, after all... what would Banacek say ?... “It is only a matter of time before armed citizens, waiting or not for the police, take things into their own hands, fire on the rioters for personal and property prot. & end up hunted like dogs.”

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Postby sixsix » August 14th 2020, 1:22pm

What differentiates your Bike from a Motorcycle - other than the obviously visible?


hmmm... maybe it is simply... "Different".
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sixsix wrote:What differentiates your Bike from a Motorcycle - other than the obviously visible?


hmmm... maybe it is simply... "Different".
not so different, if you go back to the day when your local crazy would strap any available motor on his bicycle to make a motor bicycle. there was actually a brief period when mechanical evolution took independent but logical paths towards the in-frame low center-of-gravity powerplant. the Brits took to calling them motored-bicycles, which I like as more definitive of those early contraptions.

as motor 'cycles evolved towards more power per pound, dedicated frames, and kickstart, and away from slip-clutches and pedal-start, the low-powered and primitive motored-bicycle remained a real thing, and laterally evolved (legally and socially) into the mo-ped. while some states wrote laws to define a motorized bicycle, many began to class them as a moped. IE 2-hp, single-speed auto-engage, 30mph, with functioning pedals.

in other words "you can still be crazy, but not TOO crazy."

there's a place in my heart for turn-of-the-century innovation and quaint civil mannerisms, and as I learned more, the more I felt right at home on the ever-changing Sabrina2, until the day when Sabrina2 became my home. if it wasn't for certain health issues, I'd still be out there exploring secondary roads & setting camp when I'd had enough for the day.

the BIG differences, the ONLY differences, you'll find on my motored-bicycle are the modern components. in the late 1910's it took over 350cc to create 3.5hp & 43mph, something my 47cc rivals right off the shelf. my 9mm High-Tooth-Density kevlar-ply belt replaces the 2" leather belts that constantly needed splicing. my wheels/brakes blow away anything produced up into the 1930's, and in the bicycle world there is NO comparison in terms of strength.

there's one more difference, and that's rider-attitude...it's a good idea to remember you're the guppy in a shark-tank, but many of the people who build these go right into unsafe-underpowered-motorcycle mode, putting themselves & their fellow motorists at unnecessary risk.
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