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Engine Cover Removal Procedure

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#1 ·
The removal of your van's engine cover is kind of like opening the hood of a passenger car. Just pull the latch and pop open-no, wait. This is reality. Okay, I won't lie to you. It's such a pain that the first time I had to figure out how to do it I almost traded the Astro on a truck. But if you plan to ever do any work, you need to know how to do this, every bit as much as air intake removal. The best part is once you've done it a couple times it'll be second nature. Please forgive that such a basic procedure will be painfully detailed, for it is expected that some who reference may never have owned a van before. Please note, bolt sizes or types may vary between years--the van pictured is my 2003 Astro. The procedure can be broken down as follows:
Passenger Seat Removal (not completely necessary, but gives more work space)
Glove Box Assembly Removal
Rear Air Duct Removal (if equipped)
Engine Cover Removal

PASSENGER SEAT REMOVAL
Start by removing the passenger seat. No, it isn't absolutely necessary, but it's only four nuts, and trust me you'll want the room. The bolts for the passenger seat are in each of the four corners. The nuts are 18 mm, as shown below. To remove them, you'll probably want a deep welled socket-3/8" drive seems to fit best.

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The pull the seat out. You'll be left with the seat belt connector, shown below-it's not bolted down anymore so just lift it straight off the bolt. And, you now have room to work.

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Tip: As you can see, it's quite filthy under there. If your van looks anything like mine, do the same with the driver's seat and pull the rear seats as you normally do for hauling. Then you can blow the whole mess out with garage air. Anyway, back to the procedure.

Tip: Before sitting on the floor in there, you may wish to take a double layer of cardboard and lay that where the seat was-it helps keep the remaining ends of the bolts from gouging you.

GLOVE BOX ASSEMBLY REMOVAL
The next thing to come out is your glove box. That assembly is held in place by 2 torx screws, 2 bolts and 2 clips. Start by popping out the torx screw covers, revealing the torx screws-you may need a screwdriver instead of your fingernail, as shown. The torx screws are size 30.

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Next pull the carpet as shown below-don't yank, it's only fastened lightly with Velcro on both sides of the glove box assembly.

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Now remove the 2 bottom bolts, shown below. They are 13mm bolts (below), and a socket extension will give you a lot more room to rachet.

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Now, with slowly increasing pressure-some force may be needed, but don't yank-pull each side of the glove box assembly out, as shown. NOTE: DO NOT REMOVE COMPLETE YET, THERE MAY BE A WIRING HARNESS THAT YOU COULD DAMAGE.

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Now remove the wiring harness (if present) as shown below.

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Pull the glove box assembly out. You're left with something like this:

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REAR AIR DUCT REMOVAL if equipped
The rear air duct is connected at 3 points. They are easily pulled out. Try not to jerk or yank, as you could break plastic. Start by removing the hose on the top, driver's side as shown.

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Next pull the duct toward the driver's side to detach it from the passenger side duct, as shown:

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Now lift the duct up to detach from the bottom duct, and then set aside. You're finally ready to remove the engine cover.

ENGINGE COVER REMOVAL
The engine cover is attached by 2 bolts (top) and 2 brackets (bottom). Start by unbolting the top engine cover bolts. They are 15 mm bolts, located at the top of each side. You will need several socket extensions or one or two really long ones. They will not detach completely, so when they start clicking as you turn, your done with them.

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Next remove the bottom bracket bolts. They are 13 mm bolts, and once out the brackets simply lift out.

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Now, pull out the engine cover. You may need to lift slightly and wiggle. If it's not moving, check the top bolts. Once out, set it aside. This is the end result:

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Replacement is pretty much the reverse of what you just did.

TIP: When replacing the engine cover, do the top bolts first. It can be tricky to seat, especially at the top.

TIP: When replacing the engine cover, make sure the carpet goes behind the plastic by the gas pedal (late model vans). Failure to do this will make seating the cover engine cover properly next to impossible.
 
#2 ·
That's a Great write-up and pictures chemist. This will definitely help others out with that procedure thanks.:)
 
#7 ·
Of note, if you have a drawer under the passenger side seat, it's a pain to remove/install the seat. While the extra room is nice while wrenching, the engine can easily be removed by having the drivers seat all the way back, turning the cover 45 degrees so the the middle of the cover is facing towards the drivers seat, tilt the cover back by lifting the middle of the cover near the drivers seat, then continue lifting till is slides past the seat's padding. The cover can then be rotated around the seat and removed from the vehicle.
 
#8 ·
FANTASTIC post. THIS helped me out a great deal, although now that I am in the doghouse, I have some funky issues I would like to ask you about.

I am having the SAME issue thousands must be having, when the weather is damp, my Astro will not start. It turns over, and WANTS to start. But it won't.
I know how to change oil, battery, etc, but my "auto mechanic" skill level on a scale of 1-10 is a humble 3.

I have been reading posts about this issue all night. 3 weeks ago, I had the cap, rotor, and coil wire replaced by a local shop, the van made it thru a couple rainy days, but then began acting up again. So I got the doghouse off, thanks to you, and tried to start it up in wee hours when it was dark. I found at least 3 places where a white spark was jumping from the spark plug wire to a ground. As instructed by other posts, I removed the coil wire from the distributer, and checked the spark against a ground. The spark was a STRONG orange, not BLUE like I have read it should be. Is this an indication that I need to replace the coil? Or is an orange/yellow spark not a true indication of a bad coil.
I also read that turning the key on and off should produce a spark from the coil wire (when grounded) and if it doesn't then it indicates a bad coil as well. I guess I am asking if there is any truth to that, because when I tried this, I got no spark.
My gut tells me to replace the coil, the spark plugs, and the plug wires. But the coil is the part that scares me, and I would rather just get the damn thing running and take it to a shop for better diagnostics. However since I found this site, and your posts.. I am considering the "MAN UP" approach and doing the work myself. I can rip a laptop, pc, or server apart with ease.. so how hard can this be? I need to get my hands dirty and learn how to fix my Van myself anyway right?
So what do you think? Is my coil bad?
Thanks for your awesome posts... and the pictures were a GREAT help.
 
#10 ·
Thanks for the tips on removing the engine cover.

I pulled mine off today to replace the PCV valve and distributor cap & rotor. I'm leaving the cover loose for now so my mechanic can relieve the pressure on the gas line to replace the fuel filter.

I did not have to take out the passenger seat, as suggested. The cover can easily be positioned out of the way to access the engine's components.

With the cover loose, I cleaned the ground connector for the shielding on the underside of the cover. I have just installed an aftermarket radio and it was picking up some ignition interference due to poor shielding of the engine cover.

Life Is Good :dance:
 
#11 ·
SpongeBob said:
Thanks for the tips on removing the engine cover.

I pulled mine off today to replace the PCV valve and distributor cap & rotor. I'm leaving the cover loose for now so my mechanic can relieve the pressure on the gas line to replace the fuel filter.

I did not have to take out the passenger seat, as suggested. The cover can easily be positioned out of the way to access the engine's components.

With the cover loose, I cleaned the ground connector for the shielding on the underside of the cover. I have just installed an aftermarket radio and it was picking up some ignition interference due to poor shielding of the engine cover.

Life Is Good :dance:
Glad you got it figured out Bob.

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Jim
 
#12 ·
That was definitly pinky. Wow. Well done, excellent write up.

To be as simple as possible: the coil used to be fired by having a mechanical switch (points) open and close. A magnetic switch replaced that system, so that point replacement due to physical wear is no longer necessary. If the magnetic switch is in a firing position, you may well get a spark when you manipulate the key. However the chances of having the magnetic switch in a firing position, in order for that to occur is probably less than the odds that I will win the lottery. Pull the wire out of the center of the distributor and hold it with an insulated pair of pliers or the like. Hold the wire about 1/4" away from a good ground and away from anything flammable. Crank the engine over and watch the fireworks. If it isn't blue, or if it isn't, period, then: it's bad.

Bob
 
#15 ·
Awesome write-up with pics!!! I vote this should be a sticky. Just so happens I pulled my cover for the first time today. I'm gonna pull the passenger seat tomorrow since I had my battery disconnected and can't move the passenger seat .
 
#19 ·
graysonsteel said:
the two harness connectors shown hanging on the duct work I know where the bigger one goes but I can't find where the little square white one goes. please help. Thanks
If I'm correct in assuming you're referring to the single wire connector, there's a male spade lug on the cover itself where it plugs into. Best guess is that it's some kind of RF ground for the fiberglass cover.
 
#20 ·
Quick note to maybe save my fellow worker bees pain. Spray suntan oil on the seal of the cowl to allow full seating to the firewall before attempting to drive those PITA top bolts. It's about applied energy. The angle you're forced to work at plus the weight of the thing makes it difficult to say the least. Yes I know other lubricants may be more appropriate but that's what I had. Do you really want your interior to smell like WD40?
 
#23 ·
The only time I ever remove the seat is if I'm going to be there for a while and want a flat space, like doing LIM gaskets. Anything lighter than that and I'm not removing the seat to take the engine cover off, I will however use a trashbag on the seat to make sure I don't get it dirty.